Sick of chasing payments from GCs as a sub on cabinet jobs
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NailBiter
·7mo·39 replies·40 participants
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NailBiter⭐ ExpertOP7mo
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I'm a carpenter subbing out mostly for custom cabinet installs and trim work, and these general contractors are killing me with late payments. Last month I finished a full kitchen remodel with maple cabinets and shaker doors for one of their projects, billed $8k through Joist, and it's been 60 days with nothing but excuses about 'waiting on the owner.' We're in the greater Atlanta area where everyone's always in a rush on these new builds but nobody pays on time. I saw a similar rant in the Contractors Network FB group, guys saying to always get a lien waiver signed before starting. Tried switching to ServiceTitan for better tracking but it ain't helping if they just ignore the invoices. At this point I'm thinking of adding a 1.5% late fee but half these GCs would flip. Anyone else dealing with this crap?
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WattTheHeck26⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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GCs are the worst, had one stiff me on a deck framing job for three months straight.
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JoltJester⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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How'd you finally get paid?
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GreenThumbGuru2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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What software are you using to send reminders? I need something better than email.
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FlooringFiasco⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Housecall Pro has auto reminders, but they still ignore em.
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FrameFreak2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Same here man, been chasing a $5k check for crown molding install since July.
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BoltBoss2⭐ Expert7mo
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File the lien, it's your only leverage.
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FurnitureFlipper2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Liens work but eat up time I could be on site.
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BrushStrokePro11⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Tried mediation once, cost more than it was worth.
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MopMasterMax⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Feel that, subs always at the bottom of the payment chain.
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SparkJockey2⭐ Expert6mo
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PE-backed GCs are even worse, they got deep pockets but drag their feet.
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FrameFreak8⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Yeah, screw those corporate assholes.
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DuctDoctor4⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Switch to flat rate contracts with 50% upfront, cuts the BS.
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PipeLord42010⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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We all been there, brother. That waiting game sucks the life out.
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SoilSculptor⭐ Expert6mo
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Rage against the machine, these GCs treat us like disposable.
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HueHustler⭐ Expert6mo
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Totally commiserate, lost a whole weekend stressing over an unpaid door hanging gig.
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BrushStrokePro5⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Use QuickBooks for liens, templates are solid and track everything.
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NailGunNinja9⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Proud to say I finally got a GC to pay after threatening small claims, $12k on a barn door project.
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SparkPlugSue5⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Don't sub without a solid contract, saw a guy lose his truck over an unpaid remodel.
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MopMaestro⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Frustrated as hell with a similar cabinet sub job last week, GC ghosted me.
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CanvasKing3⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Every damn time, we're the ones sweating while they sip coffee.
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CircuitSmasher5⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Commiseration from a guy who's eaten ramen waiting on trim work payments.
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BugBlasterBen⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Haha, one GC paid me in IOUs for 'future work' that never came.
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PaintSplat⭐ Expert5mo
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These GCs are vampires, sucking the profit from good carpentry work.
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DoorOpenerDan2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Same struggle, my back's killing me from all the extra jobs to cover delays.
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DrainDemon⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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We need a union for subs, tired of this exploitation.
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DuctTapeKing2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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LOL, tried invoicing a GC in crayon once, still didn't work.
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RoofRat3⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Collective BS, they know we'll chase because we need the work.
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ThermostatTamer⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Haha, my last unpaid was for baseboard installs, GC said 'it'll come' six months ago.
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GeneralFixIt⭐ Expert4mo
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Fuming over GCs who prioritize their subs but screw the little guys.
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AmpedUp⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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All of us in the trades getting bent over by these payment delays.
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CircuitSurfer5⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Rage building, one more late pay and I'm done subbing.
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CastIronCrusher2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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They treat us like we're lucky to get scraps.
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WeedWhackerWill⭐ Expert3mo
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Solid advice: always get progress payments on big installs.
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SlateMaster⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Funny story, GC paid me with a bounced check on a pergola build.
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WireWizard88⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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PE firms buying up GCs making it worse, infinite delays.
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ShingleShuffler3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Humor in the pain: named my dog 'Payment' so I can yell 'come here Payment!' daily.
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HueHustler4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Use 30/60/90 terms in your contract, helped me on frame jobs.
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PestPatrolPete2⭐ Expert3mo
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Feel ya, delays killing my cash flow on custom shelving gigs.