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rage-inducing matt risinger announcement has me quitting carpentry for good
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FrameFreak5
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FrameFreak5⚒️ JourneymanOP3mo
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up here in north jersey zone 5, i've been slinging Festool Dominos and Kreg pocket screws for 8 years building custom cabinets, charging $8k a pop for kitchen remodels that take me two weeks of sweat and sawdust. then i see matt risinger dropping this bombshell on twitter about his biggest career move ever, tying into high-performance building that makes our traditional framing look like amateur hour. it's got me so pissed, all that zone 5 cold cracking the wood we fight every winter, and now pros are shifting to this fancy envelope stuff? saw a similar rant on r/woodworking last week about influencers ruining the trade, and someone in Carpenters of America facebook group said it's pushing out the little guys like us. FML, might as well pack up my SawStop table saw and find a desk job before PE firms swallow us whole.
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DustBunnyHunter3⭐ Expert3mo
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that announcement is a game changer, finally getting the recognition we deserve in high perf builds.
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DrainDruid⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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hell yeah, been waiting for risinger to level up like this.
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FurnitureFury⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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proud to say my last job used his techniques, clients loved the tight envelopes.
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CircuitSavage⭐ Expert3mo
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screw that, risinger's just selling out to the big money crowd.
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ChillMaster4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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exactly, it's all hype to jack up material costs for us small timers.
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GreenThumbGuru3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, now every joe thinks they need $10k walls instead of solid pine framing.
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TenYearVet12⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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been building tight houses for years, this just validates what i've been doing right.
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PipeLord42021⭐ Expert3mo
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controversial take: risinger's envelope obsession ignores how most remodels are budget jobs anyway.
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HammerTimeGuy3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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nah, it's the future, adapt or die.
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JackOfAllTrades⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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future my ass, i'll stick to face frames and dovetails.
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NailBiter⭐ Expert3mo
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adapt? with what, a $5k thermography camera?
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GreenThumbGuy2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man, i feel you on the zone 5 winters destroying cheap builds.
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SpringSpecialist8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same here, every joist i sister feels like a lost cause in this climate.
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CircuitBreakerBob⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, had a deck collapse last year from ice expansion, total crap.
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FrameFreak3⭐ Expert3mo
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damn, that sucks, hope no one got hurt.
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LadderLad4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated as hell, risinger's making us all look like dinosaurs.
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RefrigerantRon🔧 Apprentice3mo
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i hear ya, been framing since '05 and this shift feels like starting over.
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TenYearVet27⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same boat, but hey, maybe it'll bring better paying gigs.
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FlooringFiasco3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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commiseration from the floor guys, your framing woes mirror our subfloor nightmares.
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NailGunNinja11⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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just finished a $12k cabinet set using his methods, clients raved about the efficiency.
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PestPatrol4⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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controversial: who cares about envelopes when termites eat through anyway?
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ColorCraze2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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humor break: risinger's announcement made my circular saw weep in jealousy.
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RollerRanger9⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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i feel the rage, been undercutting prices to compete with these new builds.
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FrostFighter⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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collective rage at the inspectors now demanding envelope tests on every job.
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MulchMaster⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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yeah, adds hours to every quote, screwing our margins.
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RustyNailBob5⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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man, zone 5 has us all fighting moisture, this just piles on.
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BrushStrokeBoss9⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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frustrated with clients quoting risinger vids back at me now.
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KeyMaster99⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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try this: spec out CertainTeed membranes early, cuts the bs.
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JoistJockey8⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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commiseration, my back's killing me from reinforcing for these standards.
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ShingleShuffler3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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collective rage boiling over, pe firms gonna eat the trade alive.
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RollerRanger9⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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damn right, saw a post in contractors network about it.
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RollerRogue9⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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frustrated, lost a bid cuz client wanted risinger-style without the budget.
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GeneralFixIt2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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proud of my last high perf deck, used hidden fasteners throughout.
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LaminateLarry⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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helpful tip: watch essential craftsman vids for quick envelope hacks.
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WireWizard6⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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warning: don't skimp on air sealing, had a mold lawsuit from it.
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GrimeFighter2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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humor: risinger's news has me building my resume outta plywood.
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DustBunnyHunter3⭐ Expert2mo
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asking: anyone got risinger's contact for collab ideas?
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SplashMaster2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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funny story: client thought envelope meant gift wrapping the house.
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FlushItFred⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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collective rage at the material price hikes this is causing.
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FurnitureFlipper3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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yeah, plywood up 20% already, thanks influencers.
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ScrewLoose⭐ Expert2mo
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all of it, from framing to trim, costs are insane now.
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SodSlinger4⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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i get it, switching trades feels tempting some days.
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DuctDoctor3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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humor: my hammer's on strike after reading that tweet.
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RoofRat2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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collective rage, this announcement is the nail in the coffin for solo ops.
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DuctTapeDynamo⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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commiseration from hvac side, your framing ties into our ducts perfectly.
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HeatHustler2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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asking: how's it affecting your cabinet installs specifically?
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RollerRanger9⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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commiseration, every job site's a battlefield now.
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RollerRogue9⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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helpful: integrate zip sheathing from the start, saves headaches.
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GeneralFixIt2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah, been there with leaky builds in the cold.
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LaminateLarry⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated, apprentices can't keep up with these new specs.
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WireWizard6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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commiseration, the learning curve is brutal.
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GrimeFighter2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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warning: test your envelopes before closing up, or regret it.
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DustBunnyHunter3⭐ Expert1mo
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warning: saw a guy get sued over poor air barrier last month.
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SplashMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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controversial: risinger's overhyping, basic framing still rules 90% of jobs.
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FlushItFred⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated as hell, this is pushing me to retire early.
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FurnitureFlipper3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i feel ya, the pressure's real.
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ScrewLoose⭐ Expert1mo
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humor: announced my 'career milestone' by breaking a saw blade.
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SodSlinger4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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warning: don't chase trends without training, it'll bite you.
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DuctDoctor3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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commiseration, trades are changing too fast for us old dogs.