Liability nightmares as a new sparky - anyone else getting hit with this?
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FrameFreak3
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FrameFreak3🏆 MasterOP3mo
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Man, I just got my journeyman's license and already dealing with liability crap that makes me wanna chuck my Klein tools across the van. Had a job last week wiring up a subpanel with Square D breakers, and the homeowner's insurance guy starts grilling me about bonding and errors coverage like I'm the one who caused their sketchy old knob-and-tube mess. It's exhausting trying to explain NEC 110.12 requirements while worrying if one wrong move means I'm on the hook forever. Saw a thread on r/electricians about similar inspector BS, and now I'm second-guessing every hookup. Anyone got tips on cheap liability riders without going broke? Feels like the trade's rigged against us new guys.
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HammerTimeHank3⭐ Expert3mo
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that sucks, i remember my first year feeling the same way about every job.
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FaucetFiend⭐ Expert3mo
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yeah, it's like walking on eggshells with the voltmeter in hand.
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TileTerrorist⭐ Expert3mo
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totally, but you get used to it after a few close calls.
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VentMaster992⭐ Expert3mo
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eggshells? more like live wires, man.
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RoofRat5👑 Legend3mo
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live wires for sure, lol.
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RoachRanger⭐ Expert3mo
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proud to say i built my business without a single claim in 15 years, all about documenting every step.
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NailBiter2🏆 Master3mo
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same here, turned down risky jobs early on and it paid off big time.
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FlushMaster5🏆 Master3mo
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documenting saved my ass once on a panel upgrade.
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HammerTimeHank2🏆 Master3mo
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i sleep like a baby knowing my liability setup is ironclad.
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PipeDreamer4⭐ Expert3mo
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ironclad is right, invested in good coverage day one.
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SpringSlinger⭐ Expert3mo
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yeah, no regrets on that expense.
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HardwoodHero5🏆 Master3mo
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liability got me once with a faulty GFCI install, customer slipped in the shower and blamed me - hilarious in hindsight but not then.
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JointJuggler⭐ Expert3mo
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shower slip? sounds like a bad romcom plot.
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TrackTormentor🏆 Master3mo
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screw these homeowners who think we're miracle workers for their crap wiring.
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WireWhizKid👑 Legend3mo
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miracle workers? more like fall guys.
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TrapTamer⭐ Expert3mo
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get E&O insurance specific for electrical, covers mistakes on installs like arc faults.
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BeamBoss⭐ Expert3mo
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E&O is a must, pairs well with GL for full protection.
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GeneralFixIt👑 Legend3mo
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yeah, and check with your state board for required minimums.
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WeedWhackerWiz⭐ Expert3mo
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state board? they just add more paperwork.
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SweepSquad2⭐ Expert3mo
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how do you even start shopping for liability without getting ripped off?
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SpringSpecialist⭐ Expert3mo
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start with trade groups, they have group rates.
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WattTheHeck10⭐ Expert3mo
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trade groups yeah, saved me a bundle.
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SpotlessSteve11⭐ Expert2mo
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insurance guy called at 3am about a 'potential claim' - turned out to be nothing, but i aged 5 years.
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DirtBagLand2⭐ Expert2mo
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nothing? still BS, they love scaring us.
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SpotlessSteve9🏆 Master2mo
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scaring for sure, keeps premiums high.
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WireWizardWill🏆 Master2mo
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my subpanel job went south because of bad grounding, client tried to sue but i had photos of everything.
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TarpTitan4⭐ Expert2mo
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photos are gold, always snap before and after.
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WireWizard88🏆 Master2mo
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always, and label your breakers clearly too.
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ACAvenger3⭐ Expert2mo
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sue happy clients are the worst part of this gig.
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DustBunnySlayer3⭐ Expert2mo
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worst for sure, makes you paranoid about every wire nut.
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ZapMaster3🏆 Master2mo
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paranoid? smart, better safe than sorry on liability.
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DrainDragon⭐ Expert2mo
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safe yeah, but don't let it stop you from good work.
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BugBusterJoe🏆 Master2mo
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good work first, liability second.
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SolderSage⭐ Expert2mo
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talked to a guy in Electrical Contractors group, he said up your deductible to lower premiums.
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ThermostatTech⭐ Expert2mo
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deductible hack works, but only if you got cash reserves.
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CircuitSavage👑 Legend2mo
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cash reserves, key to surviving claims.
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CastIronHater👑 Legend2mo
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had a claim on a 240V line install, cost me time but not money thanks to good policy.
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LadderLad4⭐ Expert2mo
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policies are tricky, read the fine print on exclusions.
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WattTheHeck3⭐ Expert2mo
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fine print got me once, never again.
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PipeLord4206👑 Legend2mo
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exclusions suck, especially for older homes.
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MopAndGloGuy⭐ Expert2mo
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older homes are liability magnets.
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SprayAndPray⭐ Expert2mo
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watched Electrician U video on risk management, eye-opener for newbies like us.
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ZapZapZoe⭐ Expert2mo
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Electrician U yeah, Dustin knows his stuff on this.
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TileTamer⭐ Expert2mo
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dustin's tips helped me avoid a bad contract.
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AntAnnihilator2⭐ Expert2mo
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bad contracts are sneaky liability traps.
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PipeDreamer9⭐ Expert2mo
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traps for sure, always get it in writing.
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ChillMasterC⭐ Expert2mo
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writing saved me from a nightmare client last month.
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WrenchWanderer⭐ Expert2mo
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nightmare clients breed liability issues.
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LockPickLarry8⭐ Expert2mo
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breed yeah, steer clear if you can.
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FixItFelix⭐ Expert2mo
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steer clear, or charge extra for the risk.
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WattTheHeck23⭐ Expert2mo
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extra for risk, smart move.
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PestPatrolPete🏆 Master1mo
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proud i negotiated a clause that shifts blame back to them for mods.
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LeakHunterPro⭐ Expert1mo
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clauses like that are worth their weight in gold.
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BloomBoss⭐ Expert1mo
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gold for sure in this litigious world.
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HammerTimePro2⭐ Expert1mo
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litigious world? understates it, everyone's a lawyer now.
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OddJobOtto⭐ Expert1mo
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lawyer homeowners are the devil.
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WeedWhackerWiz2🏆 Master1mo
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devil yeah, document or die.
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SpraySavant⭐ Expert1mo
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document or die, my motto.
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CircuitClown2⭐ Expert1mo
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had a funny one where the dog chewed the romex and they blamed my install - laughed it off but added pet clause next time.
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DucttapeKing🏆 Master1mo
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pet clause? genius, never thought of that.
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FlooringFiasco2🏆 Master1mo
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genius for sure, pets cause half the claims.
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RollerRogue7⭐ Expert1mo
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half? more like all in my experience.
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SpringSpecialist9⭐ Expert1mo
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all? close, but kids are worse.
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TarPaperTom2🏆 Master1mo
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kids chewing wires, nightmare fuel.
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SparkJockey🏆 Master1mo
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nightmare fuel, always secure everything.
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PipeDreamer18🏆 Master1mo
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secure yeah, but liability follows you home.
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DrainDevil2⭐ Expert1mo
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follows home, ruins sleep.
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PaintSplatterPro🏆 Master1mo
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ruins sleep for sure, therapy helped me.
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EaveEater3⭐ Expert1mo
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therapy? bold, but needed in this trade.
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FumeFighter⭐ Expert1mo
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bold move, respect.
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FrameItRight⭐ Expert1mo
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respect yeah, mental health matters.
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FixItFelix3🏆 Master1mo
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matters big time, don't ignore it.
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KeyMaster7⭐ Expert1mo
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saw a post on r/AskElectricians about a lawsuit over a tripped AFCI, scary stuff.
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DirtBagDan2🏆 Master1mo
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scary for sure, AFCIs are picky.
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RollerRogue2⭐ Expert1mo
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picky breakers cause half the headaches.
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LaminateLad🏆 Master1mo
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headaches yeah, but necessary evil.
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NotAnElectrician9👑 Legend1mo
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necessary? debate that in zone 3, but yeah.
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LeakHunter2⭐ Expert1mo
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debate all you want, code is code.
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FixItFelix10👑 Legend1mo
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code wins every time.
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PipeLord4202⭐ Expert1mo
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wins yeah, but liability bites hard.
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DirtBagLandscaper3🏆 Master29d
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bites hard, insure heavy.
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DrainDiver6⭐ Expert28d
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heavy insurance, light wallet.
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FlushForce2🏆 Master27d
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light wallet hurts, but claims hurt more.
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HandyDandyDude🏆 Master26d
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guy in The Contractor Fight FB group shared his claim story, total crap-show.