Insurance eating my lunch on panel upgrades with Eaton breakers
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SpringSpecialist11
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SpringSpecialist11⚒️ JourneymanOP1y
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Switched to Eaton for my main panel upgrades this year, but damn, the liability insurance jumped to $4,500 annually just for the added risk on 200A services. If you're running electrical work with those breakers, make sure your policy covers NEC 408.36 violations or you'll be screwed. 15 years in, and this is the one cost I didn't see coming.
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WattTheHeck29⭐ Expert1y
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those insurance companies are screwing every sparky on panel jobs, pure greed.
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SparkPlugJunkie⚒️ Journeyman1y
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yep, feels like they're in bed with the big box stores pushing cheap crap.
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AntAnnihilator⭐ Expert1y
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same here man, my rates doubled last year after a close call on a subpanel.
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FurnitureFury⚒️ Journeyman1y
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what was the claim? mine was a homeowner fault but they still hiked me.
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PickAndGrin⚒️ Journeyman1y
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ground fault on a garage feed, $2k out of pocket before insurance even kicked in.
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PipeDreamer21⚒️ Journeyman1y
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that's BS, did you fight it with your agent?
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SawdustSavant15⚒️ Journeyman1y
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fought and lost, now i quote higher for any outdoor wiring.
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LadderLad4⚒️ Journeyman1y
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shop around for quotes, i saved 20% switching to a trade-specific broker.
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BugBlaster4⚒️ Journeyman1y
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insurance is a racket, but skipping it on a romex run got a buddy fined $10k.
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SlateSlinger3⚒️ Journeyman1y
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fined by who, the city? that sucks.
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RollinRoller⚒️ Journeyman1y
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yeah, local inspector nailed him during a routine.
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PolishPro4⚒️ Journeyman1y
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been there, back in '18 my policy lapsed for a month and premiums shot up 50%.
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PeakPerformer2🔧 Apprentice1y
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damn.
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WrenchWiz⚒️ Journeyman1y
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bundle your commercial auto with it, cuts the electrical liability rate.
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PipeLord42022⚒️ Journeyman1y
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haha, my first claim was from a DIYer who fried their own Klein tools blaming me.
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FlashingFiend⚒️ Journeyman1y
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bundling helped me too, dropped $800 off the yearly.
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DeadboltDave⭐ Expert11mo
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same boat, just renewed at $3800 for full coverage on service calls.
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BugBlasterBeth🔧 Apprentice11mo
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you got off light, mine's pushing $5k now.
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VoltageVampire⭐ Expert11mo
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eff the insurers, they're pricing small shops out of business.
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SparkPlugSue⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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preach, especially after quoting a 240V upgrade.
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DustBunnyBoss2⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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i feel ya, knees are killing me from all the overtime to cover it.
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MopMasterMax⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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how do you deduct that on taxes?
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PeakPitcher⭐ Expert10mo
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straight business expense, talk to a CPA who knows trades.
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GeneralFixIt⭐ Expert10mo
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client accepted my eff you price after i explained the insurance hike.
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PipeDreamer13⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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insurance quotes varying wild, anyone using Hartford?
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MoveItMuscle⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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hartford's decent for electrical, but shop around.
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WeedWhackerPro2⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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goddamn rates, up 30% in two years for me.
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GateGuard⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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frustrated as hell with the paperwork too.
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DoorOpenerPro⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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yeah, filing claims feels like pulling teeth.
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RustyNails3⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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we all bleeding cash on this.
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DrainDemon⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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exactly, time to union up or something.
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FlushMaster500⭐ Expert9mo
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ditto, my back's wrecked from extra jobs to pay it.
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KeyTwister⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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proud i finally got under $4k by raising my hourly to $130.
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GeneralFixIt⭐ Expert9mo
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add umbrella policy for $200 more, covers the gaps on big installs.
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DrainDiverDan⭐ Expert9mo
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insurers hate us cause job sites are risky af.
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GarageGuru11⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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frustrated, just denied a claim on a GFCI trip that wasn't my fault.
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PrunePro⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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don't skimp on workers comp if you have helpers, saved my ass once.
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FrameForge2⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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those companies are the real thieves here.
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JoistJuggler⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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i hear you, policy renewed at $4200 last month.
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BoxHauler2🔧 Apprentice8mo
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been paying that since adding EV charger installs.
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BoltBoss⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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yeah man, solidarity on this crap.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert7mo
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same, shoulder surgery last year and premiums jumped.
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SprayTanSavant⭐ Expert7mo
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add it all as a deduction, eases the sting.
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BrushStrokePro⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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frustrating when a single arc fault claim nukes your rates.
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ShingleShark2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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haha, told my agent it's like paying for peace of mind that never comes.
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VentMaster3⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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insurers banding together to gouge us.
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CoatCaptain⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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frustrated af, quoted a shop job and had to eat the premium hike.
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HammerTimeHero6⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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these rates are killing small ops.
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CleanFreakCarl⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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funny how they cover nothing until you're bankrupt.
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AntAnnihilator3⭐ Expert6mo
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damn right, my van's wired but policy won't touch mods.
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CleanFreakFred⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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how's your deductible set? mine's $1k to keep premiums down.
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HammerTimeGuy⭐ Expert6mo
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i feel that, just switched brands and saved $600.
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SparkPlugSue2⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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yep, back issues from ladder work don't help claims.
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SodSoldier⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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same old story every renewal.
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BlowerDoorBob⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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frustrated with the endless audits too.
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BoxHaulerBob2⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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we're all in this insurance hell together.
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WeedWhackerKid⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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i hear ya, quoted $150/hr now to offset.
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PipeLord4204⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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shopped three carriers, best was still $4100.
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ShingleShark8⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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these hikes are straight robbery.
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WattTheHeck7⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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collective BS from the industry.
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NotAnElectrician27⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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helpful tip: review your policy exclusions for 14/2 runs.
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SparkJockey3⭐ Expert4mo
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yeah, saved me from a surprise.
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CanvasKid⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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frustrated, client ghosted after i billed the insurance add-on.
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EaveExpert3⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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i get it, joints aching from OT.
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RoofRat876⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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we all suffering the same.
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GreenThumbGuru2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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damn.
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VinylVirtuoso⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated as hell.
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CanvasKing2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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we all got stories like this.
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LiftAndHaulHarry⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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insurers suck, plain and simple.
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SparkPlugDummy🔧 Apprentice3mo
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how do you guys handle multi-state jobs?
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CastIronCurser⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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multi-state is a nightmare, rates double sometimes.