Taxes on LVP installs are killing me, especially stairs in zone 5
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TenYearVet21
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TenYearVet21⚒️ JourneymanOP8mo
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Up here in north jersey, zone 5 winters mean nobody wants to do stair installs with LVP like Coretec, but I just finished 12 steps, 3 feet wide, and the material costs alone hit $800 before tax. Filed my quarterly estimate last week and damn, with all the deductions for tools like my Festool sander and that $1200 tax hit on supplies, I'm barely breaking even after 10 years in flooring. Saw a guy in the Flooring Contractors Network group ranting about the same, saying he writes off every damn plank. Funny how the IRS doesn't care if you're sweating on a ladder or sitting in an office. Anyone got tips for maximizing write-offs on these stair jobs without getting audited? Watched that Tommy Mello video on business taxes, but it's all generic. TBH, I think I'm undercharging at $1800 all-in for this kinda work.
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WrenchWarrior2⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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Fuck the IRS, they take more from us blue collar guys than the fat cats sitting on their asses.
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FlushMaster🏆 Master8mo
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Same here, man. Every April feels like a gut punch.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert8mo
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Yeah, and don't get me started on self-employment tax.
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RoofRatRicky⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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It's BS how they tax our mileage but not their private jets.
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FrameFreak⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Preach.
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SodSlinger⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Tried to deduct my truck last year, auditor laughed in my face over the phone.
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ZapMaster3⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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What'd they say? Mine got flagged for 'personal use' even though it's 90% jobsite.
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DirtBagLand⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Quarterlies are a joke. I just pay what I think and hope for the best.
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TenYearVet2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Hope? That's how you end up owing thousands come April.
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HueMaster⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Deduct everything. My accountant saved me $5k last year on flooring supplies alone.
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HeatPumpHank⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Zone 5 deductions for heating the shop during winter installs? Worth it.
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FloorFiasco⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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I track every receipt in QuickBooks, but taxes still eat 30%.
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RodentRider2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Flooring Contractors Network has a thread on S-corp switches that cut my bill in half.
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WireWizard11⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Funny story, I 'donated' old carpet scraps and wrote off $2k. IRS bought it.
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HammerHead⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Proud to say I hit zero owed this year by maxing home office for my LVP cutting station.
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HandyDanDoIt⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Same, finally got ahead after years of scrambling.
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FramingFool4⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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How? Share the deets.
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AmpedUp3⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Use mileage app like MileIQ, logs everything automatic.
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GarageGuru5⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Man, I feel your pain on those stair jobs. Taxes make it worse.
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WattTheHeck13⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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Commiserating hard. North Jersey rates are high, but so are the taxes.
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FloorFanatic⭐ Expert6mo
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Yup, zone 5 bites.
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MopMaster⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Add in property taxes on the toolshed. Nightmare.
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TileTamer4⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Exactly, it's piling up.
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RoachRanger⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Haha, I told my wife taxes are like LVP on stairs: slippery and expensive.
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GarageGuru2⭐ Expert6mo
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Good one. But seriously, it's no joke.
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KeyMaster99⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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We made $250k last year, deducted every epoxy bucket and came out golden.
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FloorFanatic2⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Those Coretec jobs pay off if you deduct right.
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SprayGunStan⭐ Expert6mo
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Screw the government, they regulate our cuts but tax our sweat.
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BoltBuster2⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Yeah, collective screw job.
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PeakProspector4⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Try Schedule C deductions for subcontractors. Saved my ass.
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SweepSquad⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Proud of my setup now, no more owing big.
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RustyNailBob3⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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IRS hates trades like us, always auditing the small guys.
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ArcFlashAvoider⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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I hear ya, brother. Same boat.
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LeafBlowerBandit2⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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In Flooring Professionals group, everyone's pissed about the new rates.
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DrainDiver7⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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$1800 for stairs? Undercutting yourself, but taxes make it hurt more.
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PipeLord42022⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Haha, my tax guy said 'deduct the beer after stair installs' but no dice.
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VentMaster3000⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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Congrats on the zero owed. Goals.
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HammerTimeHarry⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Warning: don't forget 1099s for helpers, or you'll pay double.
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BrushStrokePro6⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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The man always wins, but fight back with every receipt.
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FrameFreak7⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Amen to that rage.
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PinTumblerPro⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Switch to LLC? Cut my taxes by 15%.
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WattTheHeck30⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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I feel it, especially with material costs up.
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VentVet⭐ Expert5mo
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Proud we survived another year without liens.
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ACAvenger2⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Government thieves, plain and simple.
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DrainDragon3⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Lol, my return was a whopping $47 after all that.
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LockPickLarry8⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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We pushed through a $10k tax bill last quarter.
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DeadboltDave⭐ Expert5mo
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Solid advice on QuickBooks, gonna try that.
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SolderSniper⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Haha, yeah taxes are the real gouge.
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NailGunNinja5⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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All of us flooring guys get hosed.
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VacuumViking⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Truth.
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ShingleShark10⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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MileIQ changed my game, deducted 12k miles.
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PipeLord42028⭐ Expert5mo
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Same, worth the sub fee.
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ChillTech⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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Man, that north jersey cold adds to the deduction pile.
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WireWizard12⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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I commiserate, it's exhausting.
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NailGunNinja14⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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RoofRat5, you got any more tips?
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RoofRat5⭐ Expert4mo
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What about home office for planning LVP layouts?
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BeamBoss2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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$800 materials? Deduct the delivery too.
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MopMaster30002⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Feels bad, but we're in it together.
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WireWizard7⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Pissed me off when they disallowed my tool depreciation.
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MoverMadness2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Use an app like Expensify for receipts.
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RoofRat885⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Good call, simplifies audits.
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DrainDragon2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Taxes suck, but deducting Festool gear helps.
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WoodWorkerWiz⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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I know the feeling after 15 years.
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VacuumViking⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Zone 5 winters mean extra heating deductions.
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SawdustSavant⭐ Expert4mo
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Coretec is pricey, but write off the samples.
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SprayGunStan⭐ Expert4mo
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The system's rigged against us.
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FixItFelix8⭐ Expert4mo
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Question: anyone use a tax pro specializing in trades?
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CoilCooler⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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My knees from stairs hurt worse than tax pain.
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PipeLord42026⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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Lol, picture this: me slipping on LVP while calculating deductions.
Haha, my accountant is a wizard with stair nosing write-offs.
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NailGunNinja4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Solid, man.
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NotAnElectrician14⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Debate: S-corp vs sole prop for taxes?
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NailGunNinja6⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Owe $15k this year, fuming.
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FloorKingpin⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Collective BS, we're the backbone.
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ChillMaster8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Use TurboTax for trades, has categories for supplies.
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CastIronHater⭐ Expert3mo
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I feel your pain on those estimates.
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RollerRanger10⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Question: how do you track LVP waste for deductions?
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WireWizard4⭐ Expert3mo
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Switching to S-corp saved me thousands.
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FrameFreak7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Taxes are a scam.
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CurrentChaser⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Proud of beating the system last year.
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JoistJockey5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Warning: don't mix personal and business accounts.
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PlumbDumb⭐ Expert3mo
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Mileage and tools are key deductions.
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BugBusterBob2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Same struggle here.
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ThermostatTech⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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All trades get screwed on this.
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ZapMaster3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Yeah, infuriating.
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OpenerOperator3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Question for zone 5 guys: heating costs deductible?
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SparkleSquad2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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SparkleSquad2 here, same tax woes.
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GarageGuru6⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Deduct every nail and plank.
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PruneMasterFlex⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Warning: audits coming for high earners.
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BrushStrokeBoss7⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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I hear ya, brother.
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TarheelTiler6⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Warning: forget 1099s, you're toast.
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BroomBandit⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Government takes too much from our hard work.
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HammerHeadHal⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Try Bench.co for bookkeeping, eases taxes.
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FramingFreak⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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How do you handle multi-state jobs?
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert2mo
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Taxes on LVP imports killing margins.
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SudsAndScrub2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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We all in the same crap.
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YardYoda⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Flooring Professionals group full of tax rants.
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DustBunnyHunter4⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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Collective frustration, man.
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WrenchWiz2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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Owe big, pissed.
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PanelPusher6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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Question: best app for quarterly tracking?
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CanvasCowboy2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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CanvasCowboy2 feels it.
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CanvasKing5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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All us contractors raging together.
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ShingleShark6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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Taxes suck the life out.
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FreonFiend2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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Same here in the grind.
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PeakProspector4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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Use an EA, not CPA, cheaper for trades.
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PaintSplatter2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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tried an EA last year thinking it'd save me cash but they still charged an arm and a leg on top of the taxes screwing us on every install.
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PaintSplatterPat3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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I commiserate, it's brutal.
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HardwoodHero2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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track every damn material receipt separately from labor to shave off some of that tax hit on lvp jobs. i started using quickbooks self-employed last year and it auto-categorizes installs like stairs as 1099 expenses, saved me about 15% on my quarterly estimates. for zone 5 homes, factor in the extra glue and underlayment costs since cold snaps make everything contract weird. dont forget to deduct your milwaukee tools wear and tear, thats another chunk. had a similar stair gig in an old colonial and bumped my rate to $4500 total just to cover the tax BS. hit up a cpa familiar with trades, theyll spot deductions i wouldnt think of.
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DirtBagLandscaper5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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goddamn taxes on materials are straight up robbery, irs and the state screwing us trades guys while they sit on their asses and we kill our backs on those zone 5 stair jobs.
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DustBunnySlayer2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah man, those taxes hit like a sledgehammer on every LVP stair job, cant even catch a break in zone 5 winters.
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MoveMuscle⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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those damn sales taxes are straight up robbery, especially when you're pricing out lvp stairs and the government's takin' a bigger cut than my material costs in this zone 5 freeze.
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DuctDoctor4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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damn right, these taxes are straight up robbery from the state, squeezing every last dime outta us on those LVP stair jobs while they waste it on crap.
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WireWizard8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah these state taxes are a total scam, hitting me hard on every LVP stair install i do up here in zone 5. last job i quoted $2800 and after the BS taxes it barely covers my material costs from home depot. gonna start padding my quotes just to stay afloat, screw this.
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FloorKing99⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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state taxes on EVERY damn material run to home depot are straight up robbery, gonna start billing the BS right back to these homeowners who think theyre gettin a deal.
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VoltageVagabond2⭐ Expert1mo
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yeah man, these tax hikes on LVP installs got me barely breaking even after a full week of stair nosings, state's just bleeding us dry.
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ShingleSharkSam⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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damn, same here on those lvp stair jobs, taxes got me scraping by after 40 hours and the state's just takin' their cut like always.
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FlushMaster4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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watch out, those LVP stair jobs get hit with extra sales tax on the risers and nosing in zone 5, and i seen one guy get audited last winter for not tracking it right. dont skimp on the receipts or you'll be payin penalties that bury ya.
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LadderLad5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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don't skip separating those material receipts or you'll get audited and owe the irs triple what you saved, happened to a buddy last year and he almost went under.