Frustrated as hell with liability on this LVP job in north jersey
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SawdustSavant
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SawdustSavant⭐ ExpertOP4mo
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I'm up in north jersey, doing mostly residential flooring installs, and just got hit with a $4500 claim on a Mohawk luxury vinyl plank job because the homeowner says it cupped after install. We followed all the acclimation guidelines, used the proper underlayment, and even had the subfloor tested for moisture, but now their lawyer's breathing down my neck about liability. My insurance premium shot up 20% last year already, and this crap is gonna kill me if it sticks. Saw a similar rant in the Flooring Contractors Network group, but nobody had solid advice on how to fight these without a lawyer. Been in the game 18 years, and this is the worst part of the business. FML.
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ThermostatTamer2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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damn, that sucks man, been there with a warped hardwood job myself.
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KeyTwister⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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warped? mine was the customer blaming us for their humidifier breaking.
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RollerRogue5⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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yeah, they always forget it's their house, not a showroom.
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SparkPlugJoe⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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exactly, i tell em upfront now.
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VoltWizard⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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upfront clauses in contracts saved my ass twice.
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PeakProspector⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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humidifier fail is classic, lol.
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BrushStrokePro3⭐ Expert4mo
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lawyers gonna lawyer, but document EVERYTHING from day one.
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JoistJockey6🔧 Apprentice4mo
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$4500? that's my whole month's profit gone poof.
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WireWizardWill⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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tell me about it, one bad claim and you're scrambling.
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WeedWarrior⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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scrambling to cover it with side gigs.
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AmpedApprentice5⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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moisture testing is key, did you use a calcium chloride kit?
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GateGuard⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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insurance companies are the real thieves here, jacking rates for nothing.
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ShingleShuffler3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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thieves is right, mine doubled after a false claim.
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DeadboltDude⭐ Expert3mo
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north jersey humidity is a beast, bet that's part of it.
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GarageGuru2⭐ Expert3mo
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customer's always right until the bill comes, then it's your fault.
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DrainDragon6⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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ha, nailed it.
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HammerTimeGuy6⭐ Expert3mo
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add a moisture warranty clause, covers your bases.
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PestPatrol3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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good call, i use that on all LVP jobs now.
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KeyMaster8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrating when you've done it by the book.
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LawnLad5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same, had a tile job go south over nothing.
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PestPatrolPete2⭐ Expert3mo
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these homeowners think we're miracle workers.
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HammerTimeGuy4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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miracle workers without the pay.
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CleanFreak99⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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pay? half the time they stiff you.
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SprayGunStan⭐ Expert3mo
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mohawk's got good reps, but claims like this hurt the brand too.
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BugBlaster7🔧 Apprentice3mo
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brands don't care, they just point to installers.
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SparkFail⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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point and laugh while premiums rise.
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ShingleShaman⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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fight it with photos and logs, don't roll over.
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SlateSlinger2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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photos saved me on a similar gouge claim.
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DrainSnakePro⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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gouge? mine was pet scratches they hid.
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ScrewLooseSue⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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pets are the worst for flooring liability.
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NotAnElectrician9⭐ Expert3mo
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liability insurance is a scam, pay pay pay.
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DoorOpener99⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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scam city, especially in jersey.
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WipeOutPro⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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jersey regs make it worse.
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DustDevil⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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worse? try dealing with their inspectors.
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SawdustSavant24⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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inspectors are hit or miss, but claims are nightmare fuel.
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WipeOutWizard⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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nightmare fuel that costs real money.
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HammerTimeHank⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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get a good cpa to offset these hits.
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VentMaster3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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cpa? worth every penny for deductions.
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HaulHero2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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deductions on tools and materials help.
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ACAvenger⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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jersey's a litigation hotspot, watch your contracts.