Subcontracting out tool rental for big jobs is a scam, fight me
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WrenchWanderer2
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WrenchWanderer2⭐ ExpertOP1y
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Look, I've been running my general contracting outfit for 15 years now, and subcontracting out tool and equipment rentals to these big-box suppliers is just a rip-off. We're in central California, mostly ag and ranch work, so when we need a skid steer or something heavy like a DeWalt air compressor for a site prep job, why should I pay $500 a day to sub it out when I can buy one outright for $8k and make it last? Saw a post on r/Contractor last week where guys were bragging about marking up rentals to subs, but that crap just eats into our margins when we're already dealing with fluctuating material costs. TBH, if you're subcontracting heavy equipment like that Bobcat mini excavator without owning the basics, you're leaving money on the table. Someone in The Contractor Fight Facebook group asked about this same issue, and half the responses were from dudes who got burned on rental fees during a long project. I've got a Milwaukee M18 setup that covers most of our power tool needs without handing over keys to some third-party hauler. Screw that, build your own fleet.
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GarageGuruGary⭐ Expert1y
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Just get a line of credit with United Rentals, saves the hassle of ownership.
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DustBusterDave👑 Legend1y
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Ownership means no surprises, like when they jack up rates mid-job.
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RustyNailBob4🏆 Master11mo
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True, but maintenance costs add up fast on those skid steers.
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WireWizard87⭐ Expert11mo
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Line of credit is smart for short bursts, not full-time subs.
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JoltJester2👑 Legend11mo
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Subs always lowball their rental quotes then hit you with damage fees, pissed me off last summer.
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FixItFelix8👑 Legend11mo
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Damage fees are the worst, had a $2k bill for a scratch that wasn't even there.
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LeakFinder42⭐ Expert10mo
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The real scam is how subs disappear when you need pickup on time, leaving your crew idle.
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PipeLord42021👑 Legend10mo
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Idle time kills profits, better to own and control the schedule.
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ShingleSlinger⭐ Expert10mo
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FML, just dealt with a sub who rented faulty gear and blamed me for downtime.
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SparkPlugDummy2⭐ Expert10mo
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Downtime costs more than the rental fee, always.
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DrainDiverDan👑 Legend9mo
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Yeah, test everything before signing off.
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BrushStrokePro3🏆 Master9mo
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Same here, central Cali heat wrecks rented tools faster than owned ones.
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AntAnnihilator5⭐ Expert9mo
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Heat is brutal, but subs don't cover repairs under warranty.
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DirtDiggerDan2⭐ Expert9mo
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I feel you on the margins, subs take 20% cut on rentals alone.
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FrameFreak4🏆 Master8mo
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Guy in Handyman Nation group said the same, switched to buying and never looked back.
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FlushMaster2🏆 Master8mo
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Handyman Nation has good rants on this.
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KeyKeeperKate🏆 Master8mo
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Watched Tommy Mello on YouTube talk about owning your tools to scale up.
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MopAndGloGuy⭐ Expert8mo
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Tommy's spot on, cuts out the middleman BS.
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VentMasterMike⭐ Expert7mo
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Subs are fine for one-offs, but for ongoing jobs like ranch fencing, own it.
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DoorJamDud⭐ Expert7mo
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Don't sub out power tools, get your own Milwaukee kit and save thousands.
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TrackTech⭐ Expert7mo
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Subs undercut on bids but screw you on reliability.
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PanelPusher2⭐ Expert7mo
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Reliability over cheap bids every time.
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SawdustSavant26⭐ Expert6mo
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Out here we sub less now, profit jumped 15% after buying basics.
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ShingleShuffler4⭐ Expert6mo
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Same boat, subs delayed a whole week on equipment delivery.
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DrainSnakeKing⭐ Expert6mo
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Big corps are buying up rental outfits and jacking prices, it's all connected.
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GarageGuruGary⭐ Expert6mo
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Switch to local independents for subs, better rates than the chains.
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DustBusterDave👑 Legend5mo
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I run a small fleet now, no regrets on the investment.
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RustyNailBob4🏆 Master5mo
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Quote exact ownership costs in your bids to justify it to clients.
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WireWizard87⭐ Expert5mo
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Proud of ditching subs, hit $120k last quarter on tool efficiency.
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JoltJester2👑 Legend5mo
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Own the DeWalt compressor, use it across jobs.
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FixItFelix8👑 Legend4mo
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Funny how subs vanish when there's a breakdown at 3pm Friday.
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LeakFinder42⭐ Expert4mo
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Felt that, been subbed equipment fail mid-pour and no backup.
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PipeLord42021👑 Legend4mo
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Build relationships with reliable sub crews, but own the tools yourself.
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ZapMaster2⭐ Expert3mo
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Hate when subs charge for transport on top of rental, pure greed.
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SparkPlugDummy2⭐ Expert3mo
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We all hate it, time to unionize against rental scams.
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BrushStrokePro3🏆 Master3mo
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Solid advice, just lease if buying upfront hurts cash flow.
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WeedWhackerWarrior🏆 Master3mo
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Big rental companies are the real villains here, squeezing us dry.
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DirtDiggerDan2⭐ Expert2mo
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Frustrated with sub delays costing me a bonus last job.
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FrameFreak4🏆 Master2mo
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You subbing out for ag work or more residential?
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FrameItRight⭐ Expert2mo
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Rant in The Contractor Fight nailed it, subs are profit killers.
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BrushStrokeBen⭐ Expert2mo
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Use Jobber to track sub costs and phase them out.
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BoltTightener⭐ Expert1mo
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Subs left me hanging on a ranch demo, never again.
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LadderLad3⭐ Expert1mo
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Same frustration, central Cali logistics make owning essential.
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LeakFinder42⭐ Expert1mo
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Controversial take: sub everything and focus on labor margins.
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SparkPlugSue⭐ Expert29d
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We get it, rentals suck when subs control the terms.
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WireWizard6🏆 Master19d
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Insurance hikes on owned tools are the counterargument.
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SparkJockey3👑 Legend12d
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All these rental conglomerates are killing small ops like ours.