Handyman liability insurance: am I covered for this odd job?
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SparkPlugJoe
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SparkPlugJoe🏆 MasterOP10mo
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Hey folks, I've been doing handyman work out of north jersey for about 3 years now, mostly small gigs like mounting TVs with my Milwaukee drill or patching sheetrock. Just quoted a client $175 to hang a 55in TV and install a Nest thermostat, but I'm worried about liability if something goes wrong, like the wall mount failing. I pay $2,500 a year for general liability through State Farm, but does that cover me if a client sues over a botched curtain install or light fixture swap? Saw a thread on r/handyman where a guy got dinged for $10k after a shelf collapsed, and someone in Handyman Nation group mentioned adding a rider for tools and installs. Anyone have tips on beefing up coverage without jacking up costs? Appreciate the advice.
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FrameFailFred🏆 Master10mo
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Add a clause in your contract holding the client responsible for any pre-existing wall damage before you mount anything.
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LockPickLarry3🏆 Master9mo
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Yeah, and get photos of the site before starting.
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BrushStrokeBoss3⭐ Expert9mo
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My State Farm policy covers up to $1M for that, been in the game 15 years no claims.
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NotAnElectrician26🏆 Master9mo
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NGL, switching to Progressive saved me $400/yr, same coverage.
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PaintPusherPete⭐ Expert9mo
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Progressive? Heard they drag their feet on claims.
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GarageGuru9🏆 Master9mo
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Document everything with timestamps, saved my ass last year on a faucet job gone wrong.
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DuctDaddy2🏆 Master9mo
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This. Photos, signed waiver, you're golden.
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DrainDiver4⭐ Expert9mo
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Haha, had a client blame me for their cat knocking over the TV I mounted. Insurance laughed it off.
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WeedWhackerWill2🏆 Master9mo
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Cats are the real liability, man.
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BrushStrokePro4🏆 Master9mo
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What does your policy say about subcontractor work? I had to up mine when I started using helpers.
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BoxHauler⭐ Expert9mo
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Screw the big insurers, shop around on independent agents.
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WattTheHeck25🏆 Master9mo
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For TV mounts, always use toggle bolts on drywall, reduces risk big time.
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SawdustSavant5⭐ Expert8mo
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Agreed, and specify in contract you ain't liable for hidden studs.
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FramingFool4🏆 Master8mo
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I include a $500 deductible waiver in every quote, clients sign off or walk.
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CleanFreakJoe⭐ Expert8mo
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Smart, keeps the cheapskates away.
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TarheelTiler5⭐ Expert8mo
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But what if they balk at the waiver?
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CircuitSnafu⭐ Expert8mo
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Big corps are buying up policies, premiums up 20% this year. BS.
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BrushStrokePro3🏆 Master8mo
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Tell me about it, ate into my margins on blind installs.
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SpraySavant3⭐ Expert8mo
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Never skip the pre-job walkthrough, caught a weak joist once that could've been disaster.
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HandyDanDoIt⭐ Expert8mo
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In my contract, I make em verify the wall can hold the weight first.
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FrameFreak5🏆 Master8mo
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Good call, had a similar setup fail inspection.
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SawdustSavant3⭐ Expert8mo
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Inspection? For handyman stuff? Rare but yeah.
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TenYearVet9👑 Legend8mo
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Proud to say my zero-claim record keeps rates low, knock on wood.
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SewerSurfer🏆 Master7mo
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Same here, 10 years no drama thanks to solid contracts.
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NotAnElectrician17👑 Legend7mo
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What's your template? Share if you can.
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EaveExpert⭐ Expert7mo
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Homeowners these days sue over nothing, especially after TikTok lawyer vids.
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GreenThumbGuru4⭐ Expert7mo
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Get umbrella coverage for an extra $300/yr, peace of mind.
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SparkPlugGuy⭐ Expert7mo
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We all hate these rising premiums, feels like robbery.
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GateGuard⭐ Expert7mo
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Fight me, but basic GL ain't enough for electrical add-ons like light fixtures.
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SolderSavant2⭐ Expert7mo
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Always pull permits if it's over $500, covers your butt legally.
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SparkJockey3👑 Legend7mo
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In NJ? Yeah, inspectors are sticklers.
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WireWhisperer4🏆 Master7mo
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I use a simple one-pager contract from LegalZoom, $50 well spent.
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RollerRabbit2⭐ Expert7mo
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Man, had a claim last month for a curtain rod that bent, client wanted $200 back. Denied it flat.
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AntAnnihilator3👑 Legend7mo
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What was the issue? Poor install?
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NotAnElectrician2🏆 Master7mo
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Clients act entitled, like we guarantee forever.
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FlushMaster500👑 Legend6mo
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This crap with lawsuits is killing small ops like us.
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LiftLad2⭐ Expert6mo
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Add a hold harmless clause, standard now.
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RoofRat123⭐ Expert6mo
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Where'd you get yours?
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FixItFelix8👑 Legend6mo
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Haha, my lawyer buddy does em for $100, way better than templates.
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BugBlasterBen2🏆 Master6mo
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Frustrated with clients who don't read the fine print.
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LawnLad2⭐ Expert6mo
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Preach, had one ignore the materials clause.
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GarageGuru2🏆 Master6mo
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For Nest installs, specify it's not wired, reduces liability.
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RoofRat5👑 Legend6mo
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Hit 5 years claim-free, insurer gave me a discount.
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OddJobOtto2⭐ Expert6mo
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Nice, aiming for that myself.
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DustBunnyBoss👑 Legend6mo
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Sorry man, been there with a shaky shelf job.
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AmpedUpJoe⭐ Expert6mo
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Same, knees still hurt from that lawsuit stress.
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DustBunnyHunter4⭐ Expert5mo
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These insurers treat us like the enemy.
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StudStubborn🏆 Master5mo
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Corporate greed pushing us all under.
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DuctDoctor6🏆 Master5mo
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We gotta band together against this BS.
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CanvasKing2🏆 Master5mo
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Lol, my cat's more insured than my business.
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TrimQueen🏆 Master5mo
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For real, pet policies are cheaper.
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LaminateLad🏆 Master5mo
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Got burned on a blind hang, client said it was 'defective' after a year.
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LeafBlowerPro🏆 Master5mo
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Use Sherwin-Williams for any paint touch-ups, their warranty helps claims.
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BoxHaulerBob2🏆 Master5mo
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Good tip, never thought of that.
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AmpedUp2👑 Legend5mo
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My policy with Allstate covers tools too, up to $5k.
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TarheelTiler7🏆 Master5mo
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Proud of dodging a big one last summer.
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SparkJockey3👑 Legend5mo
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How? Spill.
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WattTheHeck12🏆 Master5mo
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Sorry to hear if you're dealing with this.
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ChillMaster3👑 Legend4mo
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Big insurance companies screwing independents.
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DrainDemon⭐ Expert4mo
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Yeah, premiums doubled in two years.
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BeamBender2⭐ Expert4mo
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Document client approvals in writing, always.
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HammerTimeVet2⭐ Expert4mo
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Text works too, courts accept it.
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BugHunter👑 Legend4mo
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Never take verbal okays on big installs.
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DustBunnyBoss2⭐ Expert4mo
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Had a similar scare with a light fixture.
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ColorChanger🏆 Master4mo
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What happened?
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CircuitSavage👑 Legend4mo
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These clients sue at the drop of a hat.
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SprayGunStan👑 Legend4mo
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Fight me on this: Skip insurance, self-insure if you're small.
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PaintSplatterPete🏆 Master4mo
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Hell no, one slip and you're done.
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TenYearVet12⭐ Expert4mo
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For $75/hr misc lists, add a liability disclaimer line.
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LeakHunter5⭐ Expert3mo
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Sorry dude, sounds stressful.
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BrushStrokePro11🏆 Master3mo
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It is, especially solo.
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CircuitScreamer2🏆 Master3mo
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Insurers jacking rates to fund exec bonuses.
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WattTheHeck15⭐ Expert3mo
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Got sued over a toilet replace, total BS.
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ShingleShark⭐ Expert3mo
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Win or lose?
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WeedWhackerWill👑 Legend3mo
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Weed out risky jobs upfront.
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DustBunnyDave⭐ Expert3mo
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These stories make me paranoid.
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ConduitCrafter👑 Legend3mo
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Controversial: Handyman label invites lawsuits, rebrand to specialist.
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RollerRogue5⭐ Expert3mo
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True, 'home tech installer' sounds safer.
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ColorCraze🏆 Master3mo
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Clients in NJ are litigious AF.
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WireWizard8⭐ Expert3mo
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My GL from Hiscox is solid, $1.5M limit.
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DuctDoctor9⭐ Expert3mo
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Hiscox? Rates?
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CoilCleanerCal⭐ Expert2mo
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Proud to have zero payouts in 8 years.
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RollMaster🏆 Master2mo
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Helped a buddy negotiate down a claim.
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FlashingsFanatic⭐ Expert2mo
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How?
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WattTheHeck11⭐ Expert2mo
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Sorry for your potential headache.
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RollerRandy👑 Legend2mo
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Big corps ruining the trade.
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WeedWarrior⭐ Expert2mo
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Yeah, consolidate and screw the little guy.
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WattTheHeck24⭐ Expert2mo
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For curtain hangs, use heavy-duty brackets, cuts complaints.
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TarPaperTitan2⭐ Expert2mo
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Brands?
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FrameFailer⭐ Expert2mo
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Frustrated with vague policy wording.
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VentMaster2🏆 Master2mo
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Always get client initials on risks.
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FreonFanatic⭐ Expert2mo
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Simple but effective.
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WireWhisperer4🏆 Master2mo
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Lol, insurance reps talk like used car salesmen.
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KeyKeeperKarl🏆 Master1mo
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In Handyman Nation, they recommend annual reviews.
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TenYearVet25⭐ Expert1mo
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Proud my setup keeps me claim-free.
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LockPickLarry4⭐ Expert1mo
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What's your secret?
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WattTheHeck17🏆 Master1mo
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These rising costs are killer.
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FrameFreak3🏆 Master1mo
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Had a nest install go south, client furious.
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BoxHauler5⭐ Expert1mo
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Fixed it?
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HVACHero⭐ Expert1mo
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Insurers profit off our hard work.
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DirtBagLandscaper7🏆 Master1mo
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Same rage here.
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LeakHunter⭐ Expert1mo
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For sheetrock patches, disclaim future cracks.
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WattTheHeck24⭐ Expert1mo
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NJ clients expect perfection for peanuts.
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ColorChaos🏆 Master1mo
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Sorry man, been burned too.
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WireWizard10⭐ Expert1mo
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Story?
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TenYearVet26⭐ Expert28d
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Proud to say I upped coverage last year.
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TileTerror11⭐ Expert25d
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What rider did you add?
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VinylVirtuoso⭐ Expert22d
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These lawsuits are epidemic.
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WattTheHeck18⭐ Expert19d
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Haha, my worst was a blind that 'matched' wrong.
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FrameFailFred🏆 Master17d
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Funny how clients forget their part in it.
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LockPickLarry3🏆 Master14d
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Watched Tommy Mello vid on contracts, game changer.