handyman contracts: why bother with the damn things when clients always fight 'em
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BugBane
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BugBane🏆 MasterOP1d
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Look, I've been doing handyman gigs for 5 years now, mostly fixing up decks and patching drywall in the Chicago area my whole career, and TBH these contracts are just a headache. Last week I quoted a simple kitchen cabinet install using IKEA parts, had the client sign a basic agreement covering scope and payment terms, and they still tried to nickel and dime me over a minor scratch from the DeWalt drill bits. Someone in the Handyman Nation group said to always include a change order clause, but out here clients think you're trying to screw them if you mention extras like that. Watched a Tommy Mello video where he swore by detailed scopes to avoid this BS, but in practice it feels like overkill for $800 jobs. Fight me on this, but I say skip the formal contract unless it's over $2k and just use a simple invoice with notes. IMO it saves time and arguments.
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SparkPlugJoe2🏆 Master6h
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man i skipped the contract once on a quick fence patch and the guy claimed i 'stole' his afternoon by finishing early... now i just sign 'em in crayon so they match the kiddie level of trust around here 😂
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FixItFelix7⭐ Expert1d
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Always include a liability waiver for any power tool work, saves your ass if something goes wrong.
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PipeLord420👑 Legend1d
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Yeah, had a client blame me for a cabinet falling and cracking the floor, waiver shut that down quick.
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ThermostatTitan⭐ Expert1d
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These clients who fight contracts are the same ones who ghost you on payment, screw the whole industry.
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FixItFelix3🏆 Master1d
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Insurance companies love when you don't have contracts, makes denying claims easier on them.
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KeyMaster992⭐ Expert1d
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Totally, my rates went up 20% last year because of a job without proper docs.
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BugBlaster3⭐ Expert1d
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Same here, now I make every homeowner sign before touching a tool.
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DuctDoctor8⭐ Expert1d
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PE firms buying up handymen are pushing this crap too, forcing bad contracts on everyone.
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PanelPusher3🏆 Master1d
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Dealt with a similar cabinet job last month, client added shelves mid-install and refused to pay extra, pissed me off.
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SpringSpecialist8🏆 Master1d
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Man, that Chicago client drama sounds familiar, been there too many times.
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HandyHank⭐ Expert1d
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Don't skimp on the contract, one lawsuit and you're done.
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SparkPlugJunkie🏆 Master1d
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Clients treating us like we're disposable, then cry when work's not perfect without clear terms.
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PipeLord42018⭐ Expert1d
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This is why I hate small jobs now, too much risk for the payout.
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BroomBandit🏆 Master1d
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Saw the same rant in Contractors United, everyone's fed up with vague agreements.
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ShingleShuffler5🏆 Master23h
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Yeah, joined after my last dispute, good info there.
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ShingleShark3🏆 Master22h
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Screw that, I use a one-page contract with pics of the before state, clients love the transparency actually.
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DoorJamJam⭐ Expert20h
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Transparency? They still argue, but yeah it helps in court if needed.
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FixItFelix10👑 Legend18h
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Felt that, my back's killing me from carrying the stress of these fights.
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SawdustSavant15⭐ Expert17h
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Same boat, started using Jobber for digital contracts and it cut the BS in half.
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RustyNails🏆 Master16h
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Chicago winters make old houses worse, clients expect miracles without paying for it.
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FloorKing99⭐ Expert14h
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Yup, been dodging these headaches by sticking to referrals only.
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DeckBuilderDan👑 Legend12h
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Haha, next time just charge double upfront for argumentative types.
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PipeLord420👑 Legend11h
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Never trust a verbal agreement, especially not with IKEA furniture involved.
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BugBlaster3⭐ Expert9h
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Right? One bad job and your rep's toast without paper trail.