Carrier GL insurance jacked up to $4500, anyone else getting screwed?
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ACWhisperer
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ACWhisperer👑 LegendOP2mo
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Just got my renewal for general liability on Carrier systems and it's up to $4500 a year, that's BS for a small shop mostly doing residential installs. Last year it was under 3k and now they say claims history even though I haven't filed one in 5 years. FML, how you guys handling these hikes?
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SawdustSavant17🏆 Master2mo
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Shop around for quotes from at least 3 carriers, I switched to Hiscox last year and dropped 800 bucks easy.
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TenYearVet6👑 Legend2mo
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Hiscox? Heard they deny claims more than they pay out.
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FixItFelix11⭐ Expert2mo
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Nah, been with them 4 years no issues on my Trane jobs.
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SpringSpecialist2⭐ Expert2mo
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Yeah but their premiums are solid for us HVAC guys.
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SudsAndScrubs⭐ Expert2mo
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Tried that, ended up paying more in the end.
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PlumbDumb🏆 Master2mo
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Mine went up too after a leaky coil claim, customer blamed me for the whole flood lol.
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PipeLord42026⭐ Expert2mo
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4500? That's chump change, wait til you hit commercial and it's 10k+ for the same coverage.
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BoltBoss⭐ Expert2mo
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What kinda deductible you running? Bumping it to 5k saved me 20% on premiums.
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DrainDiverDan👑 Legend2mo
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Dude, talk to a broker who specializes in trades, they find hidden discounts for HVAC specific risks like refrigerant handling.
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PolishPro4⭐ Expert1mo
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This, my broker got me a bundle with tools coverage too.
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WipeOutPro⭐ Expert1mo
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Just bundle it with your auto policy, I saved 600 that way on my Ford transit.
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WattTheHeck16⭐ Expert1mo
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Sucks man, same here with my Lennox installs, up 40% no reason.
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DrainDiverDan👑 Legend1mo
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Document everything, even small jobs, to keep claims history clean.
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ShingleShark18⭐ Expert1mo
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I run my own policy through an aggregator, cut out the middleman and saved 1200.
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CoolantKing⭐ Expert1mo
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Proud to say I haven't had a rate hike in 3 years by going claim-free on all my ductwork jobs.
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SpringSpecialist10⭐ Expert1mo
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Yeah, zero claims club here too, sticking with Travelers for now.
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FlushMaster2🏆 Master1mo
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Don't skimp on coverage though, had a buddy get sued over a bad install and his cheap policy left him hanging.
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DrainDiverDan👑 Legend1mo
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Feel ya, premiums are killing small ops like mine.
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SawdustSavant11🏆 Master1mo
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Same, it's why I stopped taking big commercial anymore.
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DustBunnyHunter3👑 Legend1mo
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Exactly, back to residential only for sanity.
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DirtBagLand2⭐ Expert1mo
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Insurance companies are just gouging us after all the storm claims last year.
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CanvasKing⭐ Expert1mo
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This crap is why I'm looking at self-insuring for smaller risks.
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PlumbDum⭐ Expert1mo
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Ugh, my rates doubled after one false alarm on a heat pump.
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JoistJockey8⭐ Expert1mo
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Man, solidarity, these hikes are brutal on margins.
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LiftAndShift2⭐ Expert1mo
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SharkBite? Wait wrong sub, but yeah insurance sucks.
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SpotlessSteve4⭐ Expert1mo
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Rates up here too, blame it on the lawyers.
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BrushStrokePro13⭐ Expert29d
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Frustrated as hell, had to raise my service calls 20% just to cover it.
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DustBunnyHunter6👑 Legend28d
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Same boat, feels like we're paying for everyone else's screwups.
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KeyMaster2🏆 Master26d
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What does your policy cover for refrigerant leaks specifically?
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LeakHunter4⭐ Expert24d
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Add an umbrella policy for like 1k extra, covers the gaps in GL.
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SlateSlayer⭐ Expert22d
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Heard that in HVAC Techs Network, bunch of guys switching providers.
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DuctTapeKing4🏆 Master20d
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Sucks dude, been there with my annual renewal.
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AmpedUp2👑 Legend18d
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Pissed me off too, but I negotiated it down 300 by threatening to shop around.
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HammerTimePro🏆 Master17d
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These PE-backed insurers are the worst, jacking rates to feed their investors.
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ShingleShuffler5🏆 Master15d
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Yeah, collective BS, we need to band together on this.
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TermiteTerror3⭐ Expert14d
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Don't let them bully you, always ask for a hardship waiver.
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BrushStrokePro3🏆 Master12d
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Is your policy including cyber coverage now? That's what's driving some hikes.
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ZapMaster⭐ Expert10d
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Damn rates, up 30% for me on commercial HVAC.
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TarPaperTitan2⭐ Expert9d
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Feel that pain, brother, insurance is a racket.
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LawnLizardLarry⭐ Expert7d
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Same here, can't catch a break.
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CleanFreakCarl⭐ Expert5d
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Totally get it, hikes everywhere.
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SawdustSavant11🏆 Master3d
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LOL my agent said 'inflation' like that's an excuse.