Subs stiffing me on sod jobs - ever chase with liens on $8k Toro invoices?
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NotAnElectrician18
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NotAnElectrician18⚒️ JourneymanOP1y
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I've got this sub who keeps dragging ass on paying for the Toro sod and equipment rentals on our last three landscape installs. We're talking $8k owed now and he claims cash flow issues from slow mulch deliveries. Screw that, anyone actually filed a mechanics lien on a landscaping sub before?
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ShingleShaman3⚒️ Journeyman1y
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god damn subs are the worst, had one ghost me after a full yard grading job.
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HardwoodHero6⚒️ Journeyman1y
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yeah man, they take the deposit and vanish like pros.
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FloorFixer2⚒️ Journeyman1y
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filed a lien once and got my money in 30 days, worth the paperwork hell.
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SafeCrackerSam2⚒️ Journeyman1y
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all these deadbeat subs need to get called out in the groups, make em radioactive.
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NailBiter3⚒️ Journeyman1y
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hell yeah, post their names on facebook, see how they like it.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert1y
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these landscapers subs are bleeding us dry with their bs excuses.
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VentMasterMike⚒️ Journeyman1y
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united we stand, time to boycott the flakes.
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HammerTimeHal⚒️ Journeyman1y
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PE firms scooping up good ones, leaving us with the trash.
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DuctTapeKing4⚒️ Journeyman1y
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try small claims first, under $10k it's quicker than lien.
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WrenchWizard3⚒️ Journeyman1y
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what state you in? rules vary on how fast you gotta file.
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WattTheHeck2⚒️ Journeyman1y
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proud of the time I turned a $5k deadbeat into a repeat client by threatening lien, he paid double next time.
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VentMaster3⚒️ Journeyman1y
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nice, sometimes the threat is all it takes.
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PipeDreamer2⭐ Expert11mo
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yep, had a sub cough up after I showed him the lien form.
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WrenchWiz3⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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frustrated as hell, my last sub left me high and dry on a retaining wall pour.
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TileTerrorist⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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same here bro, lost two weeks pay on that crap.
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TileTamer4⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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lien em hard, don't let em walk.
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KeyMasterKev4⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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controversial take: subs deserve it if they can't pay on time, cut em loose forever.
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FloorFitterFred2⚒️ Journeyman11mo
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nah, sometimes they're legit struggling, give one warning.
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BugBlasterBen⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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had to eat a $3k loss on a pest control sub tie-in, never again.
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SodSlinger⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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commiseration - been there with sod suppliers ghosting payments.
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SparkPlugSue4⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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feels bad man, thought we were all in this together.
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BoltBoss2⭐ Expert10mo
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not with these thieves, nope.
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WattTheHeck2⚒️ Journeyman10mo
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unite against the bad apples, share blacklists privately.
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JoistJockey3⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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insurance should cover sub defaults, but it never does.
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RoofRat882⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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raging at how subs ruin the whole chain.
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RoofRider⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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yep, cascades down to us grunts.
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BrushStrokeBoss13⚒️ Journeyman9mo
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laughed when a sub tried to pay me in mulch bags, like no dude.
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BrushStrokeBoss10🔧 Apprentice9mo
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controversial: just add a 20% sub fee to cover the inevitable bs.
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ShingleShaman3⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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fight me, but yeah subs are necessary evil.
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BrushStrokeBoss5⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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watched stanley dirt monkey vid on sub contracts, he says always get it in writing.
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WireWizardWalt⭐ Expert8mo
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good call, that guy knows his stuff.
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JointJockey2⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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had a similar mess with a fence sub, took months to collect.
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VentMaster99⚒️ Journeyman8mo
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guy in Lawn Care Professionals fb group just posted about lien success on a $6k job.
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LatexLegend⭐ Expert8mo
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nice, gonna try that next time.
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SweepSquad2⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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saw the same thread, comments were gold.
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DrainDiver7⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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collectives need to push for better payment laws.
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VentMaster⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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frustrated with the cycle, always chasing.
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FlushMaster3⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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this sub owed me for irrigation parts, finally got it after court.
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NailBiter⭐ Expert7mo
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overreacting? nah, lien is the way.
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ShingleShark15⚒️ Journeyman7mo
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commiseration, lost sleep over a $4k sod delay.
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PruneMasterFlex⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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asking - anyone use service titan for sub tracking?
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SweepSquad⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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frustrated af, my sub bounced a check last week.
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DirtDiggerDan2⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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these landscapers are all talk no pay.
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DoorDoc3🔧 Apprentice6mo
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truth, time to organize.
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DirtBagLandscaper7⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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been there, sub stiffed on tree planting gig.
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DeadboltDude⭐ Expert5mo
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controversial opinion: fire first, ask questions never.
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WeedWarrior⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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commiseration from a solo guy, hate dealing with subs.
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GarageGuru⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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asking how do you vet subs better?
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CastIronHater⭐ Expert5mo
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frustrated with the whole system.
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VentVictor⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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frustrated, just ate $2k on a bad sub.
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ComboKey⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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chased a guy with collections agency, got 80% back.
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FlooringFiasco3⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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warning: don't front materials to new subs, ever.
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NailGunNinja⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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use quickbooks for invoice reminders, saves headaches.
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MopAndGloGuy2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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warning, one bad sub can tank your season.
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GeneralFixIt⭐ Expert4mo
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proud i built a sub network that actually pays on time.
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FramingFool3⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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jealous, how'd you do it?
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RollerRanger8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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commiseration, same boat here.
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LiftMaster⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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commiseration all around.
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NailGunNinja⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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funny story, sub paid me in weed whacker parts lol.
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FlashingFiend⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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collective rage at deadbeats.
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DuctDude⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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haha my sub tried trading services, ended up worse.
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DustBusterDave⭐ Expert2mo
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unite or die against the stiffers.
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ShingleShaman3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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frustrated beyond words.
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HardwoodHero6⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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asking - best lien service for landscapers?
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FloorFixer2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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commiseration dude.
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SafeCrackerSam2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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these subs need regulations.
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NailBiter3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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commiseration, tough trade.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert1mo
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frustrated with repeat offenders.
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VentMasterMike⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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asking anyone tried arbitration?
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HammerTimeHal⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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laughed at a sub who cried poor but had a new truck.