lessons from the worst client i've ever had in landscaping
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MowAndGo
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MowAndGo⭐ ExpertOP3mo
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had a nightmare client last summer who wanted a full backyard redesign with native plants and a drip irrigation system but kept changing her mind on the layout. we're in Texas so the heat makes everything twice as hard, and she wouldn't approve the sod type until the last minute, which delayed the whole job by two weeks. i should've walked away when she haggled over the $2500 quote, but figured it'd be quick money. turns out she complained to the HOA about the crew noise, even though we scheduled around their rules. biggest lesson: always get every detail in writing before breaking ground, and trust your gut on picky homeowners. saw a similar rant in the Landscaping Professionals Facebook group last month, guy lost a whole contract over it. NGL, it cost me more in stress than it was worth.
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TenYearVet5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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get everything in a detailed contract from day one, saves your ass every time.
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DrainDragon6⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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fuck these HOA busybodies, they ruin every decent project out here.
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SawdustSavant11⭐ Expert3mo
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right? one time they fined us for 'excessive dust' during a simple mulching job.
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BeamBender⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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HOAs are the devil, period.
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FloorFitterFred2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man that sucks, i had a similar one who wanted revisions mid-install and blamed me for the delays.
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BoxHaulerBob⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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drip systems are a pain with indecisive clients, charge extra for changes after approval.
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WrenchWizard🔧 Apprentice3mo
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exactly, i add a $500 redesign fee now if they tweak plans onsite.
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VinylVirtuoso⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i feel your pain, brother, these types always think they're the next landscape architect.
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VoltageVirgin⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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never trust a client who nitpicks sod, they're trouble from the jump.
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BeamBoss3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, walked off a job last year over that exact bs.
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NotAnElectrician19⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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put a clause in your contract for change orders with minimum fees, it's standard now.
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FixItFelix7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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good advice, wish i'd done that on my first big yard redo.
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MopManiac⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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started doing it after one client tried to dock pay for her own delays.
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VineyardVanguard⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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HOA complaints are the worst, document your schedule and notify them ahead.
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DirtDevilDan⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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did that once, still got hit with a fine, fought it in small claims and won.
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JoltJester2⭐ Expert3mo
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smart move, these groups bully small ops too much.
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NotAnElectrician27⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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texas heat plus picky clients? recipe for burnout, take the deposit and run next time.
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SprayTanSavant⭐ Expert3mo
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had to redo a whole flower bed because she 'didn't like the colors' after planting.
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DirtDevilDan⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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lesson learned: photos of every stage, timestamped, for proof.
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SparkFreak⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yes, and email confirmations for every approval.
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BlowerBandit⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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these clients make you question the whole business sometimes.
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WeedWhacker3⭐ Expert3mo
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always get 50% upfront for big jobs like that.
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SweepSquad2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i commiserate, lost a referral chain from one bad apple like this.
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OpenerOracle⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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don't let them near the design phase unsupervised.
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DustBunnyHunter11⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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put it all in the proposal and make sign-off mandatory.
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ShingleShark7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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HOAs suck, but some clients are worse, bait and switch on budgets.
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SpotlessSteve⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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totally, one tried to add a retaining wall mid-job for free.
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KeyMasterMike3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i've been there, the stress isn't worth the payout.
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WattTheHeck20⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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native plants in texas? good choice but yeah, clients don't get the maintenance.
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RollMasterRay🔧 Apprentice3mo
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document, document, document - that's the only way to cover yourself.
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BoxHaulerBob⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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change orders killed my schedule last season because of one like her.
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WattTheHeck2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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drip irrigation revisions are expensive, bill them hourly for tweaks.
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GreenThumbGuru3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same here, always push for written approvals early.
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CleanFreakPro⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated just reading this, hope you got paid in full.
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FlangeFanatic⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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watched a mike andes video on client management, he says fire the bad ones.
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DrainDiverDan2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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don't do drip without a full layout approved, headaches guaranteed otherwise.
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SparkPlugStan⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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never skip the signed layout or you'll be digging up your own work for weeks. had a client once who changed their mind mid-install and it cost me $2k in redo fees.
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SpringSpecialist9⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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texas clients expect miracles in that heat, set expectations low.
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SparkJockey2⭐ Expert3mo
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low expectations and high deposits, that's my motto now.