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Struggling to Land Commercial Landscaping Clients? Reviews Killing Me Here
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BoltBoss2
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BoltBoss2⭐ ExpertOP3mo
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Man, I've been bustin my ass trying to break into commercial landscaping gigs out here in the Phoenix area, where slow season doesn't really exist, but property managers keep ghostin me after I send proposals for stuff like seasonal mulch refresh and irrigation tweaks with Rain Bird heads. I got a solid 4.8 on Google from residential jobs, but one bad review from a homeowner who said my crew left some clippings behind tanked my momentum, and now commercial leads are dryin up. Someone in the Lawn Care Business Owners Facebook group mentioned how they turned it around with video testimonials of before-and-after sod installs, but I'm not sure if that's worth the hassle. Anyone else feelin this pain? I watched that Mike Andes video on scaling up, and he swears by consistent online presence, but damn, it's tough when you're solo with a Stihl backpack blower and a used Toro ZTR.
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WrenchWally2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Sharkbite fittings are garbage for anything permanent, stick to soldered copper every time.
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ShingleShark5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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fuck these corporate property managers, they lowball everyone then act shocked when quality suffers. collective rage building.
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BoxHaulerBen⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yeah, had a strip mall owner try to pay me half for full turf replacement, told him to shove it.
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GutterGuru⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same, they're all about the cheapest bid, screw em.
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V9820🔧 Apprentice3mo
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yeah those property managers are the worst, lowball ya then bitch when the job aint perfect
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CleanFreakCarl2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Insurance companies are screwing us on claims for equipment damage from client sites, rates up 30% this year.
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TermiteTerror⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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tell me about it, my GL premium jumped after one bogus slip and fall on wet grass.
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VentWizard⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, and workers comp is a joke with all the back injuries from edging beds.
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PestPatrol7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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never trust a client who wants to 'see your insurance first', they're just fishing for excuses to stiff you.
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WireWhisperer2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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exactly, had one demand proof then vanished after I quoted their corporate campus mow.
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FloorFixer2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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Use Jobber for review requests right after the job, automates it and boosts your Google stars quick.
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ColorCraze⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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good call, I set it up and saw my rating climb from 4.2 to 4.7 in two months.
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WattTheHeck30⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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customer called me out for 'uneven mulch lines' but it was their sprinkler that washed it out overnight lol.
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NailGunNinja8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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had a guy complain about weed growth in a bed I just planted, turns out his dog dug it up. FML.
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DeadboltDude⭐ Expert3mo
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i feel you brother, been chasing commercial parks for years and reviews from picky HOAs kill the vibe.
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YardYoda⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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reviews are everything, but fake ones from competitors are rampant in this game. fight me on reporting them.
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OpenerOperator⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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hell yeah, got one removed after proving it was bs from a rival crew.
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MopManiac⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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took me three tries with google support, but worth it.
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FlushMaster500⭐ Expert3mo
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proud to say I landed three office park contracts last quarter by offering free seasonal audits first.
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SprayTanSavant⭐ Expert3mo
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client thought his artificial turf was 'too green' after install, wanted a refund. what a clown.
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DirtDevilDan⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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haha, just bid on a warehouse lot and the manager asked if I could make it look like a golf course for minimum wage.
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BenderBuddy⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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PE firms buying up landscaping outfits and jacking prices, we're all getting rolled up soon.
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RoofRat887⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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no kidding, saw my local competitor get acquired and now they're charging double for basic mows.
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LiftAndShift2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, kills the small guy trying to compete on quality tree work.
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OpenerOracle⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man same here, lost a bid because of an old review about delayed spring cleanup.
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BenderBuddy⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - what software you using for managing those commercial proposals?
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AirFlowAce2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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had a funny one where the client said my edging was 'too straight', wanted it wavy like nature lol.
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BugHunter⭐ Expert3mo
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big box stores demand rock bottom but expect pristine landscapes, screw that noise.
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GarageGuru2⭐ Expert3mo
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totally, quoted a retail plaza and they countered with half, passed.
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DuctDoctor3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated as hell, poured time into a portfolio of park installs and still no bites from offices.
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ShingleShuffler5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yeah i get the struggle, reviews from one bad weed control job haunt you forever.
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DrainDragon6⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same, client blamed me for weeds that were there before contract started.
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ChillMaster6⭐ Expert3mo
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send personalized follow-ups with photos of your best commercial mulching jobs, works wonders.
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AmpedUpJoe⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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damn clients nitpick every leaf, makes you wanna quit commercial altogether.
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KeyMaster3000⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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hey op, you tried networking at local chamber events for property managers?
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BushWhacker2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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angie leads are trash, full of tire kickers who ghost after free estimates.
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SparkPlugDummy2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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feelin that, my back's killing me from all the unpaid demo work on bids.
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DeckDoctor⭐ Expert3mo
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we're all in this crap together, commercial chase is a grind.
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HaulHero⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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watched a stanley dirt monkey vid on client acquisition, he says door knock office parks weekly.
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BoltBuster⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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tried it, got one contract but security chased me off twice lol.
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TenYearVet7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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smart, but tailor it to your irrigation specialties.
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CastIronHater⭐ Expert3mo
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ugh, revised a quote three times for a hotel and they went with the low bidder who botched it.
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GarageGuru2⭐ Expert3mo
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humor in how clients think landscaping is just pushing a mower around.
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SprayGunStan⭐ Expert3mo
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pissed off at a review saying my sod install was patchy, it was their uneven grading!
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SudsAndScrub2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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big corp clients treat us like disposable, always squeezing margins on bed maintenance.
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DoorJamDud⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, demand organic mulch but pay plastic rates.
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OddJobOutlaw⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated with google burying small ops under big chains' review volume.
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PipeLord42020⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same boat, trying to pivot from residential lawns to apartment complex grounds.
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WrenchWally2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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respond to every bad review publicly with facts, turns it around fast.
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LockPickLarry4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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these PE rollups are destroying local landscaping rates, we can't compete.
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FlushFreak2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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goddamn PE vultures are swooping in and undercutting everyone with their bullshit rates, i cant even get a fair shake on bids anymore. lost a $15k maintenance contract last month to some rollup outfit that probably uses half-trained kids and cheap-ass mexican labor. reviews? forget it, one bad one from a picky HOA board and youre sunk, even if its total crap. been bustin my hump for 8 years building this landscaping gig and now it feels like quicksand. they dont care about quality, just volume, and locals like us get eaten alive. screw em, im thinkin of pivoting to residential only but even thats gettin saturated.
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NotAnElectrician24⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man, i hear ya, one hoa review cost me a whole subdivision contract.
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RootRipper⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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lost my mind over a client who reviewed based on weather delays.
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RoofRat2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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offer incentives like free first month aerations to hook commercial.
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PaintSplatterPat3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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contractors unite against these cheap ass managers who undervalue tree pruning.
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PanelPuncher⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - how do you handle negative reviews without sounding defensive?
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YardYodaYusuf⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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funny story, client said my gravel path was too rocky... it was gravel!
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PeakProspector⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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controversial take: ignore google reviews and focus on direct referrals from realtors.
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PipeLord42023⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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nah, reviews are gold for commercial bids, can't skip em.
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JoistJockey8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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built my rep by volunteering landscapes for local non-profits, led to paid gigs.
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FittingFiend3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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we're getting hammered by apps like thumbtack flooding market with underpriced services.
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HammerTimeVet⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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damn, thought I had a lock on that mall contract til the review check.
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FrameFreak9⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yeah, commiserating, bad sod feedback from one job ripples everywhere.
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GreenThumbJoe⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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use canva to make slick before afters for your proposals, clients eat it up.
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FlashingsFanatic⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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hate how one pissed off apt manager can tank your whole portfolio.
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CanvasKing2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - anyone use video walkthroughs in proposals for commercial lots?
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TarPaperTiger⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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corporate greed killing the trade, they want luxury landscapes for fast food prices.
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SolderSavant⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i feel the burnout from chasing these elusive commercial contracts.
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GarageGuru⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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same here, reviews from flaky clients make scaling impossible.
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RootRider2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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hit 500k last year by specializing in eco friendly commercial installs, reviews followed.
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DuctTapeDuke2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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nice, what niche? drought tolerant beds?
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MoveMuscle2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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PSA: document every job with pics to counter bad reviews.
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HandyHank⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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we're all screwed if we don't band against review manipulation.
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ChillMaster3⭐ Expert3mo
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frustrated af, poured heart into a park redesign and got dinged for 'not native enough'.
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FramingFool3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man, this grind for commercial is real, props for pushing through.
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SawdustSavant🌱 Newcomer3mo
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i tried cold calling a strip mall last week, guy said 'we already got a landscaper' and i said 'cool, does he mow around the squirrels or just run em over?' now im the squirrel whisperer apparently 😂
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ACWhisperer🏆 Master3mo
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proud of landing a school district contract after fixing my online rep.
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CanvasChaos⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - best way to get property managers to actually read your proposals?
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GarageGuru10⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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those big chains dominate reviews, small guys gotta hustle harder.
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ToolTinker⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i get it, one bad flower bed review and poof, no more inquiries.
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DirtBagLandscaper3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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watched tommy mello talk reviews on his pod, says respond with empathy always.
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SawdustSavant24⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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tried it, turned a 1 star into a repeat client.
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ThermostatTech⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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unions pushing into landscaping, gonna change the commercial game soon.
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FridgeFixer⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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feelin your pain, commercial bids take forever and reviews decide it all.
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PrunePrince⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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solid advice: get testimonials from past commercial mulch jobs on video.
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WireWizard9⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - you using any crm like service titan for tracking leads?
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ThermoTech⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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PE vultures circling, buying firms and slashing crews for profit.
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DustBunnyHunter6⭐ Expert3mo
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yeah brother, reviews are a double edged sword in this biz.
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SweepSquad⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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landed two warehouse lots by offering bundled irrigation with Rain Bird.
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ACAvenger4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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smart upsell, clients love the water savings pitch.
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RollerRandy⭐ Expert3mo
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hate these clients who review based on things out of your control like weather.
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RoofRat8810⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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controversial: paid review services are the only way to compete now.
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DustBunnyBoss⭐ Expert3mo
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hell no, that's risky as shit, get banned.
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PipeLord42028⭐ Expert3mo
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scaled to 10 trucks by focusing on review replies and follow ups.
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MoveMasterMike2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man, commercial chase got me down too, one day at a time.
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BoltBrain⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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proud moment: turned a bad review into a feature article in local mag.
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WattTheHeck18⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - how do you vet commercial clients before wasting time on bids?
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HardwoodHero2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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we're getting royally screwed by these aggregator sites burying real pros.
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WeedWhackerKid⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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i feel ya, bad review from a strip center killed my streak.
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PipeDreamer18⭐ Expert3mo
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use facebook groups like Landscaping Professionals to swap leads.
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PipeLord42030⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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frustrated with endless revisions on landscape design proposals.
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WeedWhackerPro3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yeah, commiserate, it's a tough nut to crack without the review buffer.
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ChillMaster2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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totally, need that 5.0 to even get a call back.
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BoxHauler3⭐ Expert3mo
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solid tip: partner with local real estate for commercial referrals.
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DoorDoc4⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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these managers are all the same, promise the world then cheap out on plantings.
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FloorFitterFred2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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asking - anyone else seeing commercial shift to low water xeriscape?
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GarageGuru5⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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man, the review game is brutal for us small operators.
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AmpedUp3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, one star and you're invisible.
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RollerRogue7⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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funny how clients expect perfection but pay peanuts for bed edging.
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RoofRat6⭐ Expert3mo
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hit my goal by ignoring bad reviews and doubling down on quality installs.
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TrackTech2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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warning: don't chase commercial without ironclad contracts, got burned once.