PSA: Always get mover contracts in writing before loading the truck
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SpringSpecialist3
·6mo·43 replies·35 participants
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SpringSpecialist3⭐ ExpertOP6mo
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I've been hauling furniture and packing up houses out in rural Ohio for over a decade, and let me tell you, verbal agreements are a recipe for disaster in this line of work. Last month, we had a job moving a three-bedroom from Columbus to a farm up near Toledo, and the customer swore on the phone they'd pay $2,200 flat rate for the full service including shrink wrap on all the sofas and dollies for the heavy appliances. We show up with the 26-foot Penske, load everything meticulously with moving blankets and straps, only for them to balk at the final bill and claim we agreed to $1,800 because they found a cheaper quote on Thumbtack. Now we're stuck chasing payment through small claims, and it ate up two days we could've spent on legit runs. Guys in the Moving Professionals Facebook group have been warning about this crap for years, same stories every week. Don't be the idiot who skips the signed contract; use something simple like a basic agreement form from Joist or even Google Docs if you're bootstrapping. I've seen too many solo operators get screwed this way, especially with out-of-state moves where enforcement is a nightmare. Save yourself the headache and get it in writing every time.
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LockPickLarry4⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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god damn it, happened to me last week with a piano move, customer ghosted after we unloaded the upright in their new garage.
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DirtBagLandscaper8⚒️ Journeyman6mo
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sue their ass, small claims is quick if you got texts or emails proving the verbal deal.
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DustBunnyHunter6⭐ Expert5mo
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fuck these homeowners acting like we're their buddies until the bill hits.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert5mo
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exactly, they lowball then cry poverty when it's time to pay up.
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SparkleSquad2⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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how do you guys handle deposits for bigger jobs like that?
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SparkPlugFail⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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require 50% upfront on anything over $1k, wire transfer or check, no credit cards for deposits.
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HandyMandy⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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that works, but some customers pitch a fit about wiring money to an unknown.
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ArcFlashAvoider⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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big corps like Two Men and a Truck never deal with this bs because everything's locked in contracts from the jump.
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PlumbDum⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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yeah, but us independents get hosed every time, need to band together or something.
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RodentRidder2⚒️ Journeyman5mo
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total bullshit, just spent $500 on lawyer fees for a similar non-payment on a local apartment move.
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LiftLegend2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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been there, brother, lost a whole weekend chasing a deadbeat who reneged on a full pack job.
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MoveItMuscle⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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use service agreements from Housecall Pro, templates are solid and they email sign-off instantly.
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TermiteTerror2⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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i feel your pain, had a crew waste three hours loading a king size mattress setup only for the wife to change her mind mid-job.
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CircuitClown⭐ Expert4mo
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same here in the burbs, customers think we're U-Haul and expect handshake deals.
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TileTamer⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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get everything via email confirmation at minimum, cc a witness if possible.
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NotAnElectrician19⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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frustrated as hell, just ate a $1,200 loss on a cross-town furniture haul because no signed paper.
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AmpedUp2⭐ Expert4mo
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print out a simple one-pager with scope, rate, and payment terms; make em initial each section.
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SpringSpecialist10⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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good call, adds that extra layer without scaring them off.
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FlashingFiend⚒️ Journeyman4mo
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these cheapskates are ruining the industry, undercutting real pros with their haggling.
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AmpedApprentice3⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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screw the ones who won't sign, walk away early and find better clients.
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WattTheHeck23⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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had to repo a customer's washer mid-move because they wouldn't pay the balance, total embarrassment.
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DirtBagLandscaper8⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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harsh but necessary, better than eating the cost.
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MulchMan2⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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outrageous how many think movers are just day laborers with no overhead.
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WattTheHeck25⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yeah, fuel, truck maintenance, insurance... they act like it's free.
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WattTheHeck30⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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pissed off at a job yesterday, loaded their antique armoire and they claimed 'misunderstanding' on the hourly.
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MoveItMuscle⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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don't load a damn thing without the ink dry on the contract.
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WireWhizKid⭐ Expert3mo
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had a nightmare with a long-haul to the next state, no contract meant no recourse when they stiffed us.
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HandyMandy⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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yep, learned that the hard way on my first big gig.
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BoltTightener⚒️ Journeyman3mo
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corps are buying up small mover ops to avoid this contract chaos.
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HammerHeadHal2⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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unions push for standardized agreements, but independents suffer.
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ZapMaster3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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lost $900 on a packing service dispute last summer, no written terms.
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BoxHauler5⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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controversial take: charge a kill fee if they back out after loading starts.
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HammerTimePro3⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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these deadbeats make us all look bad, jacking up insurance rates for everyone.
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HammerTimeVet⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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absolutely, one bad apple and the whole fleet pays.
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WireWizard7⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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i hear ya, just dealt with a similar flake on a two-truck job.
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CircuitSnake⭐ Expert2mo
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man, that sucks, hope you got at least partial payment.
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PlumbDum⚒️ Journeyman2mo
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warn your crews: photograph everything before and after, covers your ass in disputes.
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SpringSpecialist10⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated with a client who disputed the final wrap on their china cabinet, claimed scratches that weren't there.
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HandyMandy⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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haha, had a guy tip me with a six-pack after we wrestled his hot tub into the basement without a contract fight.
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DirtBagLandscaper8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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homeowners unionizing against us or what? tired of the games.
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TenYearVet9⭐ Expert1mo
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rough day hearing this, stay strong out there.
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BrushStrokePro11⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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always get a signed contract with payment terms spelled out before anything touches the truck, like 50% upfront and the rest on delivery. had a client try to stiff me once but that paperwork saved my ass.
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LockPickLarry4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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another one bites the dust, just fired a repeat offender client after contract drama.