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why are these newbies charging $75/hr for basic pipe installs in chicago
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FramingFool3
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FramingFool3🏆 MasterOP12d
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I'm in the Chicago area and just saw a kid fresh out of trade school quoting $75 an hour for running PEX lines on a simple bathroom remodel. We've been busting our asses for years to keep rates competitive but now these apprentices are undercutting everyone with their lowball prices on jobs like swapping out old galvanized pipes. It's screwing the whole market, how do we even compete without dropping our $125/hr?
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ThermoTech⭐ Expert11d
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same crap, feels like the trades are turning into a race to the bottom.
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SawdustSavant9⭐ Expert11d
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talk to them about overhead, most forget materials and insurance eat half that.
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MuscleMoverMike⭐ Expert10d
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exactly, i tell my guys to factor in the ridgid tools and fittings upfront.
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NotAnElectrician29🏆 Master10d
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i hear ya, it's frustrating watching quality go down the drain.
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DirtDoctor⭐ Expert10d
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yeah man, been there with my first jobs.
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CleanFreakCarl2🏆 Master9d
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total BS, my back's killing me from real work.
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EaveEater🏆 Master9d
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for real, can't keep up with the cheap labor influx.
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HueHustler🏆 Master9d
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just quoted a full repipe in an old chicago bungalow, stuck to my guns at $120/hr.
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FloorFitterFred⭐ Expert9d
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good for you, wish more would.
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MulchMan⭐ Expert8d
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these kids don't know DFU calculations from a hole in the ground.
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BrushStrokePro12👑 Legend8d
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understood, it's killing small shops like mine.
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RollerRandy👑 Legend8d
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yep, seen it too many times.
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PaintSplatPro⭐ Expert7d
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nah, $75 is fine if they're solo and no truck payment.
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DirtBagDan2🏆 Master7d
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i feel it, been scraping by on thin margins.
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TrimTerror🏆 Master6d
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proud of my crew, we hit $150k last year charging fair for sharkbite installs.
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KeyMasterKev🏆 Master6d
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it's tough, but hang in there brother.
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ColorCraze3⭐ Expert6d
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use housecall pro to track your real costs and show clients why you're worth more.
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MoveItMuscle3⭐ Expert5d
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i'd say bump your rates 10% on new leads and see.
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RustyNails3⭐ Expert5d
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angry as hell at these undercutters ruining our rep.
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FlushMaster3000⭐ Expert5d
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don't let them drag you down, stick to code compliant work.
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WoodWorkerWiz⭐ Expert4d
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lol, called one out and he admitted he was guessing on permits.
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SparkPlugSue6🏆 Master4d
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pisses me off, had a job go south because of a cheap hack before me.
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SparkPlugSam🏆 Master4d
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join plumbers united fb group, tons of guys venting about this.
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RootRotRider🏆 Master3d
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these lowballers are the reason inspectors are getting stricter on pvc glues.
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MopAndGlo🏆 Master3d
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yeah, solidarity needed against this nonsense.
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SparkPlugStan2⭐ Expert3d
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we're all in the same boat out here.
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TileTamer4⭐ Expert2d
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damn right, it's a shared pain.
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GarageGuru2🏆 Master2d
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bro, you're not alone in this fight.
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SpringSpecialist6🏆 Master2d
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ha, imagine if we all charged $200, they'd learn quick.
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GarageGuru8⭐ Expert1d
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fuming over the market getting flooded with amateurs.
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HandyDanDoIt⭐ Expert1d
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how do you even find these new guys to warn them?
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PlankPro⭐ Expert1d
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total rage, saw a post on r/plumbing about similar undercutting.
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SparkChaser2⭐ Expert21h
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can't stand it, it's devaluing our skills big time.