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newbie plumber here, how the hell do i avoid these dumbass diy messes?
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FlushMaster
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FlushMaster👑 LegendOP4mo
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been in the plumbing game for like 6 months now, and im sick of walking into houses where homeowners think they can swap out a Moen shower valve with some youtube tutorial and end up flooding the damn place. out here in rural Ohio, everything's old farmhouses with cast iron stacks that are already half clogged, and these idiots make it worse with pvc glue jobs that aint even cured right. saw a post on r/Plumbing last week about some guy trying to DIY a PEX repipe and now his whole basement smells like sewer, and it got me thinking, how do you newbies out there handle telling customers 'hey, this is a crap-show, let me fix it for real'? i mean, i charge $95 an hour but half my jobs are undoing this BS, and its pissing me off. anyone got tips on spotting the worst diy disasters before i even start? watched that Roger Wakefield video on common PEX mistakes and yeah, it helped, but still feels overwhelming.
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SweepStakeSue🏆 Master4mo
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never touch a job where the water's already shut off wrong, it'll bite you in the ass later.
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RollerRanger2🏆 Master4mo
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yeah, had one where they bypassed the main shutoff with duct tape, took me 2 hours just to isolate the leak.
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TenYearVet17⭐ Expert3mo
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duct tape on pipes? thats a lawsuit waiting to happen, always document that crap with photos.
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PatchPal⭐ Expert3mo
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isolate first, then assess. saved my truck from a flood once.
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BrushStrokeBoss5🏆 Master3mo
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these diy'ers make me wanna quit some days, spent 4 hours yesterday redoing a toilet flange that was zip-tied to the subfloor.
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OddJobOtto2⭐ Expert3mo
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zip ties? wtf, thats next level stupid.
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RoofRat4⭐ Expert3mo
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had a similar one, flange held with chewing gum almost. rural areas are the worst for this.
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LeafBlowerPro🏆 Master3mo
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chewing gum? now thats funny, but yeah, document everything for insurance.
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CircuitSnake👑 Legend3mo
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start with a pressure test on the whole system before touching anything, use your ridgid gauge.
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LadderLad5⭐ Expert3mo
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good call, caught a hidden leak under the slab that way last week.
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LatexLegend👑 Legend3mo
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ridgid makes solid tools, but dont forget to check for cross connections too.
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PlumbDumb🏆 Master3mo
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pressure test saved me from a $2k callback once.
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SparkleSquad⭐ Expert3mo
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yeah, and always ask if theyve used sharkbites, those things leak under pressure half the time.
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FaucetFiend2⭐ Expert3mo
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im so over these homeowners thinking hgtv makes them pros, one lady glued her drain backwards.
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PestPatrol6⭐ Expert3mo
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glued backwards? thats gold, bet it backed up on day one.
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NailGunNinja13⭐ Expert3mo
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happened to me too, had to cut the whole vanity out.
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NailGunNinja2⭐ Expert3mo
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same here man, feels like every third job.
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NotAnElectrician17👑 Legend3mo
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yep, diy culture is killing us trades.
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WattTheHeck15⭐ Expert3mo
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try explaining code to them, ipc 405 says no, but they dont care.
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SudsAndScrubs⭐ Expert3mo
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ipc violations everywhere, document and move on.
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SparkJockey3👑 Legend3mo
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had a guy who 'fixed' his sump pump with a shop vac hose, flooded his garage.
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NailBiter👑 Legend3mo
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shop vac? thats hilarious, but yeah, rage inducing.
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KeyMaster8🏆 Master3mo
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always bring extra pvc primer, these hacks never use it.
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CircuitSmasher3🏆 Master3mo
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good tip, saved me on a rushed job.
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PickLockPete⭐ Expert3mo
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primers the difference between a solid joint and a leaker.
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GeneralFixIt3⭐ Expert2mo
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one time i found a flex line from home depot connected to cast iron with hose clamps.
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VoltageVagabond2🏆 Master2mo
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hose clamps on plumbing? thats a fire waiting, no water.
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PipeLord4202⭐ Expert2mo
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flex lines are fine for washers, but not mains, smh.
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FlashingFox🏆 Master2mo
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yeah, saw that in plumbers united group, total disaster.
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NailGunNinja12⭐ Expert2mo
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plumbers united has the best horror stories.
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SparkPlugSue5⭐ Expert2mo
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hate when they use cpvc in hot lines, melts under heat.
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SparkJockey3👑 Legend2mo
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cpvc in hot? thats a code violation for sure.
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WireWhizKid👑 Legend2mo
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always inspect the whole run, not just the obvious.
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DustBunnySlayer👑 Legend2mo
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inspected a whole house once, found three bad splices.
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CircuitSurfer2🏆 Master2mo
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bad splices lead to nightmares, test everything.
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PipeDreamer2🏆 Master2mo
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testing is key, use a milwaukee pressure tester if you can.
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CastIronCrusher🏆 Master2mo
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milwaukee's decent, but ridgid's more accurate for me.
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PipeLord4203⭐ Expert2mo
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ridgid all the way, lasted 10 years on my truck.
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NotAnElectrician18🏆 Master2mo
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frustrated with these calls too, but it pays the bills.
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RodentRidder2🏆 Master2mo
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pays, but eats your soul some days.
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HammerTimePro3🏆 Master2mo
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try the job costing software like jobber to track these time sinks.
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CleanFreakPro⭐ Expert2mo
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jobber helped me bill extra for diy cleanup.
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RustyWrench⭐ Expert2mo
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billing extra is smart, they caused it.
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GarageGuru8⭐ Expert2mo
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one diy'er drilled through the water line thinking it was electrical.
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VinylVirtuoso⭐ Expert2mo
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drilled through? thats a geyser waiting.
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NotAnElectrician26🏆 Master2mo
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geyser in the kitchen, mopped for hours.
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SplashMaster⭐ Expert2mo
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always shut off at the street if they wont listen.
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SlateSlinger6⭐ Expert1mo
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street shutoff saves lives, literally.
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BrushStrokePro3🏆 Master1mo
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had a newbie like you ask in the contractor fight fb group, got good advice there.
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FrameFreak2⭐ Expert1mo
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contractor fight is gold for rants like this.
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CoilCooler🏆 Master1mo
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yeah, vent there when plumbing gets you down.
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FittingFiend⭐ Expert1mo
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fitting a whole new line after diy sabotage.
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CoilCleanerCal⭐ Expert1mo
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sabotage is right, these people are dangerous.
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LockJock⭐ Expert1mo
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dangerous and clueless, worst combo.
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PinTumblerPro⭐ Expert1mo
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clueless leads to calls at 2am.
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BoltBoss2👑 Legend1mo
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2am calls for leaks? no thanks, i screen them.
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PeakPerformer2⭐ Expert1mo
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screening is key for sanity.
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CircuitSnake👑 Legend1mo
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one guy used silicone sealant instead of pipe dope on threads.
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TileTerror3⭐ Expert1mo
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silicone on threads? leaks guaranteed.
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SpotlessSteve4⭐ Expert1mo
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guaranteed mess, had to redo the whole manifold.
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CircuitSnafu⭐ Expert1mo
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manifolds are tricky even for pros.
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CircuitSavant3🏆 Master1mo
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tricky but necessary in remodels.
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ScrubLord2🏆 Master1mo
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remodels bring the worst diy.
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DrainDevil2⭐ Expert1mo
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worst is when they pour drano down everything.
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BoxHauler5⭐ Expert1mo
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drano eats pipes, then they blame us.
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LawnLad⭐ Expert1mo
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blame game is real in this trade.
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PipeDreamer18🏆 Master1mo
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had a customer epoxy a crack in the copper line, held for a week.