PSA: Don't skip plumbing permits for water heater swaps, even on small jobs
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FlushMaster
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FlushMaster🏆 MasterOP1mo
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Had a nightmare last week pulling a permit for a Rheem tankless install that the previous guy skipped. Been in the Chicago area my whole career and inspectors here are sticklers for code 501.8 on venting. Cost me an extra $500 in fines and rework to bring it up to snuff. Guy in Plumbers United was ranting about the same thing, said he almost lost his license over a simple swap. Watch a Roger Wakefield video on this, he breaks down why skipping permits hits your retirement savings hard down the line. If you're saving for the future, don't cut corners on this crap. TBH, it's not worth the headache.
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OpenerOperator4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, same shit here, got hit with a $400 fine last month on a quick swap because the inspector was on a tear. chicago codes are no joke, should've known better but lesson learned the hard way.
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LiftLad⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man i feel that, permits are killing my margins every time.
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PeakPerformer⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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file them yourself through the city portal to cut the admin fee. saved me 200 bucks last month on a similar job.
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BrushStrokeBoss6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah but the wait time is brutal, had to delay a whole week once.
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RoachRider⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated as hell with these new regs, makes solo work impossible.
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DustBunnySlayer5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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tell me about it, every job turns into a paperwork nightmare now.
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LeakHunter2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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got dinged 300 for no permit on a drain line, pissed me off.
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SlateSlinger5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated, inspectors acting like gods over basic stuff.
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ShingleShark10⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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same, they rejected my PEX routing without reason, total BS.
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FrameForge⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated with the double standards, homeowners get away with DIY but we can't.
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SweepKing2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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exactly, saw a post on r/Plumbing about a guy fined for nothing.
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BugBuster88⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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shut up and get the permit, it's your ass if something leaks later.
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VentWizard4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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never skip permits on gas lines, had a buddy's shop burn from bad install.
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SudsSquad⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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that's terrifying, gonna double check all my old jobs now.
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RollerRogue5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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ugh, same boat here.
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DirtBagJoe⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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hate this part of the job.
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LiftLad2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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totally get it, drains the fun out of plumbing.
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SawdustSavant4⭐ Expert1mo
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use a service like PermitFlow, streamlines the whole thing for under 100 bucks.
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NotAnElectrician13⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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tried that, still got rejected twice. waste.
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FloorKingpin⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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stick to paper filings in small towns, digital is glitchy.
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LaminateLarry⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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good tip, will try next time.
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DrainDiver3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah digital sucks in rural spots.
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DuctDetective⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lol inspectors are just power tripping.
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BugBusterJoe2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we're all in this permit hell together.
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DirtBagLand2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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damn right, rising costs everywhere.
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ZapMaster⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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insurance premiums shot up 20% because of permit issues.
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WireWizard6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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big corps buying up plumbers, now they enforce permits to squeeze solos.
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RustyNailBob3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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hate those PE assholes ruining the trade.
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SpotlessSteve5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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ugh, feel you on the fines.
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GreenThumbFail⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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same, it's exhausting.
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PipeDreamer13⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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how do you track permit costs for taxes?
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DoorDoc3🔧 Apprentice1mo
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deduct as business expense, talk to a CPA.
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SawdustSavant5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate greed pushing all these rules to kill small guys.
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TileTerror5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yep, saw it in The Contractor Fight group.
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DrainDiverDan⭐ Expert1mo
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they're consolidating everything, scary.
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HueMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, that sucks.
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BugHunterX⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i hear ya.
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SparkSafety⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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never ignore permits, liability lawsuits are worse than fines.
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SprayTanSavant⭐ Expert1mo
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had a client sue over a leak, cost 10k to settle.
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FramingFool4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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ugh, retirement feels farther away.
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BloomBoss2⭐ Expert1mo
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same, these fees eat into savings.
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DoorOpenerPro2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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how long does appeal take usually?
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BugBusterJoe3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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weeks, not worth it imo.
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SparkPlugSue5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud of dodging a big fine last year by pulling permits early.
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CircuitSurfer3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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customer thought no permit meant cheap, now owes me double.
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JointJockey⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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hilarious, they learn the hard way.
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HueMaster⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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finally got my IRA bumped up after consistent permitting.
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ThermostatTech⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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damn these new guys cutting corners.
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HaulHero2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we're screwed with these rules.
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DustBusterDave⭐ Expert1mo
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yeah, tough out there.
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WireWhizKid⭐ Expert1mo
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how do you budget for unexpected permit hikes?
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JackOfAllTrades4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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ugh, back killing me from extra trips.
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WattTheHeck4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate overlords making life hell.
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PestPatrolPete2⭐ Expert1mo
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rally against it in the groups.
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PickAndGrin⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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boss made me redo a whole bathroom over permit fail.
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FlushItFred⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we all hate this crap.
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ThermostatTyrant⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate buyouts forcing compliance to crush us.
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SawdustSavant18⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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join the fight, don't go quietly.
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ChillMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lol my inspector's a joke, approved a mess once.
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RoofRatRicky2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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use QuickBooks to track permit expenses for deductions.
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LawnLad4🔧 Apprentice1mo
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solid advice, helps with retirement planning.
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BlowerDoorBob⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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PE firms are the real enemy here.
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SlateSlinger4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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inspector from hell on my last repipe.
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VentMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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how do you explain permit needs to cheap clients?
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SparkFreak⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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show em the fine examples, scares them straight.
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SafeCrackerSam2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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haha, one client tried bribing the inspector.
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HeatPumpHank⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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permits are fine, keeps bad plumbers out.
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SawdustSavant29⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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ugh, delayed my whole schedule.
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DuctTapeDave⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we get it, man.
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HeatHustler⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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big money interests screwing the little guy.
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VentMaster5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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time to union up or something.
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FrameFreak7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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watched a Tommy Mello vid on permit strategies.
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WipeOutPro⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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feel bad for new apprentices dealing with this.
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LockoutLou⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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shut up, permits protect your savings long term.
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MoveMuscle2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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true, avoids lawsuits later.
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GarageGuru9⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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got burned on a no-permit water line, 2k fix.
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WeedWhackerWill⭐ Expert1mo
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we're all feeling the pinch.
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TrackTech2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate consolidation is killing independents.
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DuctTapeKing⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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haha, my dog's better at permits than me.
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ColorCraze3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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these rules are outdated af.
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WrenchWarrior⭐ Expert1mo
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push for changes in the FB groups.
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GutterGuru4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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filed 20 permits this month alone.
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SawdustSavant29⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, same struggle.
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WattTheHeck2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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how to fight unfair rejections?
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DoorOpenerPro⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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appeal with code refs, works sometimes.
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SpringSpecialist2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we all been there.
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WeedWhackerPro3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yep, tiring.
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TarheelTiler4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud my company's permit compliance is 100%.
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FuseFiend⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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skipped a permit once on a quick heater swap and next thing i know the inspector's grilling me like i installed a nuclear reactor in the basement.