Workers comp insurance for roofers is a total scam, fight me
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ShingleShuffler
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ShingleShuffler👑 LegendOP5mo
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Been doing roofs in the Dallas-Fort Worth area for 8 years now, mostly asphalt shingles and the occasional metal job with standing seam panels from McElroy. Our workers comp rates shot up 25% last year after one guy slipped on a wet ridge vent during a storm chase install, even though we followed OSHA fall protection to the letter with harnesses and all. Insurance companies act like every roofer is one ladder away from a lawsuit, charging us $8k a year for a crew of four when half our jobs are under $5k total. I saw a rant in the Roofing Contractors group where a guy in Florida said he switched to a self-insured setup and saved a ton, but here in Texas the regs make it a nightmare. TBH, if premiums keep climbing like this, I'm thinking of going solo or just hiring 1099 guys and eating the risk. Anyone else ditching traditional comp?
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EaveEnforcer2⭐ Expert5mo
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same here man, my back's killing me from carrying the extra premiums.
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NailGunNinja6⭐ Expert5mo
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yeah those rates are bullshit.
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DuctDoctor9⭐ Expert4mo
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exactly, feels like robbery.
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LawnLizardLarry⭐ Expert4mo
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insurance mafia.
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WeedWhackerWill👑 Legend4mo
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preach.
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GarageGuruGary⭐ Expert4mo
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Reminder: you were fired before you hit the ground.
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HammerHeadHal⭐ Expert4mo
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that's gold.
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DuctDaddy2🏆 Master4mo
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lol spot on for roofers.
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AmpedUp2👑 Legend4mo
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we switched to a high-deductible plan with Travelers and cut costs by 40%, best move for our shingle crews.
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PipeLord420👑 Legend4mo
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nice, what was your old rate?
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FixItFelix3🏆 Master4mo
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screw the insurers, they deny every claim anyway.
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TenYearVet28⭐ Expert4mo
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had a guy fall last year, comp fought it tooth and nail.
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LeafBlowerPro🏆 Master4mo
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total BS, almost bankrupted us.
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FixItFelix8👑 Legend3mo
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yep, denied because of 'improper harness' even though it was fine.
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DirtBagJoe🏆 Master3mo
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fucking crooks.
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DirtBagLandscaper6👑 Legend3mo
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i feel your pain, premiums ate my whole hail season profit.
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FittingFiend2⭐ Expert3mo
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don't skimp on it though, one bad fall and you're done.
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MoveItMuscle3⭐ Expert3mo
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we just quoted a $15k roof in the burbs and comp added $2k to the overhead.
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DoorDoc4⭐ Expert3mo
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insane.
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CastIronCrusher🏆 Master3mo
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my knees gave out on a steep pitch last month, comp covered PT but dragged their feet.
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WattTheHeck26⭐ Expert3mo
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unions are pushing back hard against these hikes in our area.
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ChillMasterHV👑 Legend3mo
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same, had to lay off a helper because of it.
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FlushMaster3000⭐ Expert2mo
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sucks, been there with tile jobs.
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ZapMaster3000🏆 Master2mo
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watch out for state funds if you're small, they audit like hell.
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KeyMaster👑 Legend2mo
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yeah, got nailed on a minor paperwork error.
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FrameFreak7⭐ Expert2mo
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we're thriving by only taking insured jobs now, no more uninsured risks.
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CanvasKing2🏆 Master2mo
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frustrated as hell, switched carriers three times this year.
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PrimerPal3🏆 Master2mo
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this is why i went independent, no crew no comp.
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LaminateLegend⭐ Expert2mo
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man that texas heat makes falls worse, comp should factor that in.
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RootRider⭐ Expert2mo
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don't do owner-operator without it, one lawsuit and goodbye business.
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ShingleSlinger⭐ Expert2mo
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i hear ya, my flat roof repairs are killing me financially.
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BugBlaster4🏆 Master2mo
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rates up because of all the storm damage claims, not our fault.
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WrenchWarrior👑 Legend2mo
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how do you even negotiate these premiums down?
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FlashingFiend🏆 Master2mo
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pissed at the renewals, jacked 30%.
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WattTheHeck5🏆 Master1mo
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big corps are buying up policies and screwing independents.
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ScrewLoose👑 Legend1mo
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yep, solidarity against the insurance giants.
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HeatPumpHero🏆 Master1mo
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feels good to have a safety net after that one windy install gone wrong.
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TrimTerror🏆 Master1mo
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we're all in this crap together.
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ColorCraze2⭐ Expert1mo
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all these hikes are from PE firms jacking prices.
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FloorKing99⭐ Expert1mo
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insurance lobby owns the lawmakers.
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ShingleShark12🏆 Master1mo
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finally got a group rate through a roofer association, saved $3k.
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JunctionJunkie2⭐ Expert1mo
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hate how it ties up cash flow on tear-offs.
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PipeLord42013⭐ Expert1mo
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careful with 1099, texas audits them hard on roofs.
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RodentRidder👑 Legend28d
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the man.
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PolishPro2⭐ Expert25d
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screw 'em, going offshore or something lol.
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PipeDreamer13⭐ Expert22d
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frustrated, yeah my metal roof bids are suffering.
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DrainDiver4⭐ Expert19d
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we're all getting hosed on this.
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SolderSage⭐ Expert16d
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proud we fought a denial and won, took a lawyer though.
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HueHero⭐ Expert13d
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damn carriers, always finding excuses.
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RollerRanger3⭐ Expert10d
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one bad claim and rates skyrocket for everyone.
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PlumbDumb🏆 Master8d
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i feel it, back injury from scaffolding still pending.
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ChillMasterC⭐ Expert5d
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PE vultures circling our industry.
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DoorDoc⭐ Expert3d
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this sucks for small crews like mine.
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BoltBoss2👑 Legend6h
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we're all pissed at the system.
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PaintSplatFun⭐ Expert6h
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frustrated af with the paperwork alone.
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DrainDevil2⭐ Expert6h
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how's the coverage on drone inspections for roofs?