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Commercial clients lowballing GAF roof installs - pissing me off
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VentBoss
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VentBoss⭐ ExpertOP1mo
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Just had a big box store chain try to negotiate a $45k GAF shingle job down to $38k like we're some fly-by-night crew. These corporate assholes always want the premium materials but act like $200/square is robbery. Sick of chasing commercial bids that go nowhere.
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BlowerBoss⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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same crap, they lowball then hire some hack who screws it up and now we gotta fix it.
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CoilCleanerCal⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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exactly, then they blame the whole trade. F that noise.
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SparkJockey3⭐ Expert1mo
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yep, lost a $50k bid last month to some undercutter using cheap crap.
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TenYearVet7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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it's the procurement departments, all spreadsheets no clue about labor.
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DuctDoctor3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate greed at its finest, they nickel and dime while CEOs rake millions.
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PipeDreamer4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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tell me about it, quoted $60k for a warehouse redo and they laughed.
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GarageGuruGary⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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feels like every commercial bid is a race to the bottom.
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RollerRandy⭐ Expert1mo
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been there, brother. my knees can't take much more of this BS.
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TenYearVet16⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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hang in there, got any tricks for weeding out the cheapskates?
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FrostFighter⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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just walk away, life's too short for 10% margins.
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SprayTanSteve⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we just bid high and let the idiots go elsewhere.
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GateOpenerGuru⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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smart, but then the referrals dry up.
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BrushMaster⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, i feel your pain on those GAF jobs.
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SlateSavage🔧 Apprentice1mo
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had a similar run in with a strip mall owner, wanted the world for peanuts.
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DuctTapeDave⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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they all do, until the leaks start and they're calling you back at double the rate.
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DrainSnakeKing⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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truth, turned a $30k loss into a $70k repair gig.
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PeakPitcher⭐ Expert1mo
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i hear ya, commercial side is a joke sometimes.
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ChillMaster6⭐ Expert1mo
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yep, stick to residential where people actually value the work.
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KeyMasterKev3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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this industry chews up good roofers with that crap.
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ChillMaster3⭐ Expert1mo
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lowballers gonna lowball, but damn it's frustrating.
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SawdustSavant18⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we've been burned too many times on commercial.
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DrainDragon3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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same here, guy.
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DuctDoctor7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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total agreement.
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DustDevil3⭐ Expert1mo
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corporate clients are the worst, no loyalty.
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RoofRat884⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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GAF bids should be non-negotiable, quality costs.
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WattTheHeck6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud of ditching commercial last year, revenue up 40%.
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PanelPusher4🔧 Apprentice1mo
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had a laugh when a client tried haggling over nail types.
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JoistJockey8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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screw the big chains, they treat us like vendors not pros.
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DirtBagLandscaper7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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amen, focus on local businesses instead.
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JackOfAllTrades3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lost $25k on a bid to some cut-rate crew.
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VacuumVince⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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GAF premium but they want discount pricing, unreal.
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GrimeFighter2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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just quoted $55k and they ghosted, whatever.
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TenYearVet8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i know the feeling, been chasing shadows.
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JackOfAllTrades4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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what do you charge per square minimum?
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PadlockPro⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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commercial eats your soul with that negotiation BS.
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NailGunNed⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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exactly, different beasts but they don't get it.
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CircuitSavage⭐ Expert1mo
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lowball city out there.
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EaveEater⭐ Expert1mo
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we walked from a $40k job, their loss.
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PestPatrol7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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NailGunNinja4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate suits ruining the trade.
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EaveExpert⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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try adding a 20% contingency, weeds some out.
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NailGunNinja6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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last week a manager tried to 'shop' our quote around.
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PrunePioneer🔧 Apprentice1mo
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feels bad, but yeah.
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TileTamer5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i feel ya on the frustration.
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WattTheHeck29⭐ Expert1mo
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they lowballed me on a CertainTeed job once, never again.
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PipeLord42030⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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aim higher, $250/sq min for commercial.
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BoltBoss2⭐ Expert1mo
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good call, quality shows.
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TenYearVet28⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud we finally set boundaries, jobs smoother now.
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LockoutLulu⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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hysterical when they call back panicking over leaks.
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HammerHead⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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right? karma's a roof.
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DoorJamJam2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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commercial clients think we're interchangeable.
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FixItFelix10⭐ Expert1mo
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don't take the bait, hold your ground.
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SawdustSavant13⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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same struggle here.
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LatexLegend⭐ Expert1mo
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yep.
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JoistJockey2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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had to fire a client mid-negotiation.
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CircuitSurfer3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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watched a Tommy Mello video on handling this, game changer.
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PeakProspector2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lowballers are everywhere in roofing.
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KeyKeeper99⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i hear that.
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JoltJockey2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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what's your walk-away number?
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NailGunNinja5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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GAF jobs at $45k should be a steal.
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MopMaster30002⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud of my crew for standing firm.
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CoilCooler2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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respect.
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LiftMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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they always come crawling back.
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RollerRanger7⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lowballing is killing small ops.
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SplashMaster⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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GAF quality deserves better pay.
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HueMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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frustrated as hell with chain stores.
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ColorWheelCarl2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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i feel your pain.
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DustBusterDave⭐ Expert1mo
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same old story.
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BrushStrokeBoss13⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate BS at its peak.
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HeatHustler⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yep, avoid if possible.
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MoverManic⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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laughed when one tried to pay in IOUs.
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GarageGuru⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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don't get me started on their 'volume discounts'.
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RodentRidder3⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we just bid on spec now, no chasing.
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ShingleShark9⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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lowballers suck.
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SplashMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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total agreement.
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PestPatrolPete2⭐ Expert1mo
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i feel bad for you.
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NotAnElectrician8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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corporate greed ruining trades.
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FlashingFox⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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try the 3-bid rule, expose their games.
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ZapMaster2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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don't do it, walk away early.
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GreenThumbGuy⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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solid advice.
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WoodWhisperer⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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we've all been there.
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GarageGuruGus⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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proud to say we turned it around by specializing in high-end commercial.