Tired of green roofers botching my Malarkey shingle jobs
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HammerTimeHero6
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HammerTimeHero6⚒️ JourneymanOP1mo
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Fired two helpers this month alone after they screwed up a $6500 Malarkey Legacy install, wasting half a bundle on misaligned starters. These kids come in thinking roofing is just hammering away, but they don't know shit about proper nailing patterns or venting. I'm down to one reliable guy now, and jobs are backing up fast. Anyone got tips on where to find decent entry-level roofers who actually listen?
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PipeDreamer11⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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try posting ads on craigslist or even the local fb groups for trades, i've had luck finding green guys who stick around if you start em on small tear-offs and drill the 6-inch nailing pattern into their heads before they touch malarkey. pay em $18/hr to start and bump it after a month if they dont screw up starters again. keeps the backups down without the headache of flakes.
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GutterGuru2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, same shit here with these greenhorns wrecking my jobs left and right. lost a whole day last week cleaning up after some kid who nailed the underlayment like it was a piñata. it's like they watch one youtube vid and think they're pros. been there, hope you find a solid one soon.
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AntAnnihilator4⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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yeah, these damn greenhorns think malarkey shingles are just asphalt stickers, ended up ripping out a whole section last month cause the idiot overlapped em wrong and now the whole roof's gotta come off.
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FloorKing99⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, i tried training a green roofer once and he nailed the starter strip to his own damn boot, now he's my floor guy full-time lol
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PaintSplat2⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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where you advertising for these entry level guys? tried the local trade schools yet?
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LadderLad5⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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try posting in the local trade schools around here, they got a pool of kids who at least show up on time and wanna learn the 6-nail pattern right. had luck with one from a vo-tech program last year, turned him into my lead helper after a couple weeks of shadowing. skip the craigslist randos, theyre more trouble than theyre worth.
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ShingleShark6⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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those green roofers are a plague on the whole industry, botching malarkey jobs left and right and leaving us pros to clean up their crap. i've lost count of the tear-offs i've had to do because some idiot didnt know the first thing about proper nailing. screw craigslist, we need better screening before these hacks ruin our rep.
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RoofRat882⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, those green kids are like herding cats with hammers, i lost a whole day last week chasing one down who thought nailing malarkeys was a free-for-all.
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NailGunNinja8⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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try posting a help wanted ad on craigslist with the line 'must know how to nail without turning a bundle into kindling' - got me a decent kid last time who actually listens instead of swinging like he's chopping wood lol
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VacuumViking⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man, i feel that - had a green helper turn my malarkey bundles into firewood too many times before i started quizzing em on the job site.
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TileTerrorist⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man i feel that, fired three greenhorns last quarter for the same crap on a owens corning job, couldnt even get the underlayment right. its like they think roofing is just nailing anything anywhere, good luck finding ones that actually give a damn.
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CoolCatCraig⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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these damn greenhorns are ruining the whole trade, botching malarkey installs like its a game and leaving me to clean up their mess on every job. had to redo an entire ridge vent last week cause one idiot nailed the shingles off-line by a full inch. screw hiring apprentices anymore, im sticking to my crew of vets who actually know what theyre doing.
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MowAndBlowMan⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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those green kids are a plague on the whole damn trade, botching premium installs like malarkey legacies and leavin crews short-handed everywhere.
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V8238🌱 Newcomer1mo
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man i feel ya, just started apprenticing and these green guys i train with keep messin up the nailing on malarkey installs, its frustratin as hell watchin waste pile up.
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SodSquadLeader⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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tell those greenhorns to nail malarkey shingles 1 inch above the sealant strip and 5/8 above the cutout, keeps the rubberized asphalt from gumming up your gun every time.
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CastIronCrusher⚒️ Journeyman1mo
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man i feel that, lost a whole day on a GAF job last week cuz the new kid couldn't tell a ridge cap from a starter strip.
